OT: General UFC/MMA/Boxing discussion VIII

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[Pompeius Magnus]

Derrick Lewis didn't sugarcoat his terrible UFC 226 fight with Francis Ngannou
As usual, Lewis ain't sugarcoating anything. You have to respect the dude for how straightforward he is. Admitting he just dooesn't know how to do takedowns might not be all that smart though

 

[mariolemieux66]

UFC Fight Night and Manny Pacquiao vs Lucas Matthysse.

 

[mariolemieux66]

Sage Northcutt just pulled a Hulk Hogan.

 

[Mike Mike Caron]

Sage Northcutt just pulled a Hulk Hogan.

Pretty solid ground defence. Needs to learn a takedown defence though, the division has a lot of takedown artists, and Ottow was just taking him down at will.

 

[mariolemieux66]

I don't see Dos Santos losing.

 

[Redux91]

Still, i like how experienced ivanov looks out there, he can hang with him

but yeah dos santos too agile

 

[Mike Mike Caron]

I don't see Dos Santos losing.

For some reason Ivanov has an aura of mystery to him that makes the bout unpredictable

 

[MD thaivuN]

dunno what the UFC was doing here booking Ivanov against JDS

 

[mariolemieux66]

Pacquiao by TKO in the 7th round.

 

[peate]

Not a big boxing fan but, Manny Pacquiao is unreal.

 

[mariolemieux66]

Shogun Rua just got destroyed.

 

[MD thaivuN]

mid-tier middleweight quickly rising to the top of LHW division. Talented big athletes are so hard to find in the heavier weight classes.

I can only imagine how much destruction Yoel Romero is gonna unleash in that division

 

[TRG]

That card was bad.

 

[Pompeius Magnus]

Shogun is still in pretty good shape and dangerous on his feet but his prime is way behind him by now. I hate seeing my old Pride favorites get smashed like that but father time is one opponent you just can't beat.
There's no clear heir to DC if he decides to drop the LHW belt, which he most likely will. A short Romero reign ( provided he climbs one division ) seems to be the best scenario. It'll have to happen quick though, the dude is over 40.

 

[BehindTheTimes]

Don't think DC is going to drop the LHW belt. Should be interesting to see how this all plays out.

 

[Mike Mike Caron]

That card was bad.

Amazingly bad, the two main fights were enjoyable though.

 

[LyricalLyricist]

Shogun is still in pretty good shape and dangerous on his feet but his prime is way behind him by now. I hate seeing my old Pride favorites get smashed like that but father time is one opponent you just can't beat.
There's no clear heir to DC if he decides to drop the LHW belt, which he most likely will. A short Romero reign ( provided he climbs one division ) seems to be the best scenario. It'll have to happen quick though, the dude is over 40.

Romero vs DC would be a draw IMO. DC wants none of that.

DC is on coast mode. He's looking for easy LHW defense then a retirement with brock.

 

[Pompeius Magnus]

Romero vs DC would be a draw IMO. DC wants none of that.

DC is on coast mode. He's looking for easy LHW defense then a retirement with brock.

He's been very adamant that he's retiring next March (where he'll be turning 40) so he might have 2 other fights in him, tops. The UFC really needs to make those count, they might put a lot of pressure on him to take on Yoel. That or they just let him sit till whenever Brock is cleared to come back ( December I think ? ) . I don't even know who he could face at 205 that would actually generate some buys, a Gustafsson rematch maybe ?

 

[LyricalLyricist]

He's been very adamant that he's retiring next March (where he'll be turning 40) so he might have 2 other fights in him, tops. The UFC really needs to make those count, they might put a lot of pressure on him to take on Yoel. That or they just let him sit till whenever Brock is cleared to come back ( December I think ? ) . I don't even know who he could face at 205 that would actually generate some buys, a Gustafsson rematch maybe ?

Brock is back in January.

My guess is he fights in NYC in MSG for LHW defence then moves to January or February(depending on LHW match length and result) against Brock.

IF he finishes Brock with ease he may give Jon Jones or Stipe his last match in March. I HIGHLY doubt it but I've seen him say he might give stipe rematch after Brock but I'd think it would need to be an easy first round finish for him to consider it.

DC just wants to cash in. Brock, Jones, Stipe are only guys who can do that for him.

The problem is he will NOT defend HW title before Brock because if he loses title he pissed away a huge payday against Brock.

He will not fight Alex because he said last fight with him wasn't a big draw despite the good fight.

 

[LyricalLyricist]

Not a big fan of how UFC treats interim champs.

They make rules as they go.

When GSP vacated middleweight championship Whittaker(Interim champ) was made real champ by default.

When Tony Ferguson got injured by fluke accident they allowed Khabib to fight nearly ANYONE for the real belt and stripped Conor & Ferguson. This is a little more understandable given how Conor held the division for so long.

Now...Colby Covington won the interim championship June 9th, underwent surgery and said he's still November card in MSG. Offers 5 months between fights. Nope, they want him ready in 3 months...for September card. They strip him of interim title and give Till...who I think did f*** all vs Thompson and didn't even make weight...the next title shot.

What? You can dislike Covington but how does UFC decide to strip a guy less than 2 months after he fought?

 

[Mike Mike Caron]

Not a big fan of how UFC treats interim champs.

They make rules as they go.

When GSP vacated middleweight championship Whittaker(Interim champ) was made real champ by default.

When Tony Ferguson got injured by fluke accident they allowed Khabib to fight nearly ANYONE for the real belt and stripped Conor & Ferguson. This is a little more understandable given how Conor held the division for so long.

Now...Colby Covington won the interim championship June 9th, underwent surgery and said he's still November card in MSG. Offers 5 months between fights. Nope, they want him ready in 3 months...for September card. They strip him of interim title and give Till...who I think did **** all vs Thompson and didn't even make weight...the next title shot.

What? You can dislike Covington but how does UFC decide to strip a guy less than 2 months after he fought?

When the news first got out, I was sure it was because he was busted for steroids. Then when they said it was because he wasn't recovering fast enough from his operation, I couldn't believe it. Why not make a fight for a shot at Colby in November? I guess Hovington will fight the winner of the fight.

 

[Pompeius Magnus]

Time for the Canadian gangster and his sweet ironic 'stash . An impressive win tonight could really put him in a big top 5 fight position .

 

[Pompeius Magnus]

OAM seems to be having a hard time picking up Hernandez's movement. He's getting caught with right hands he's not seeing coming at all.

 

[Pompeius Magnus]

Trying to out wrestle a good wrestler was probably a bad idea.