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[Calicaps]

I wont argue. You have your own scientists.

These are data from scientists across the globe. All the links and stats I shared above are from the UN or global Paris Climate Accord. So not sure what you mean by "your own."

 

[Ajax1995]

You’d need to make a pretty convincing argument that the consequences won’t be bad for 2 reasons:

1. As it stands most of the predictions from several years ago have actually been revised because they were too conservative. Things are now predicted to be worse than previously imagined.

2. Understating the problem and being wrong about it would lead to disastrous consequences. Why not err on the side of caution especially when the scientific consensus is saying we need to act now?

I’m not saying I believe it or don’t currently. I’m simply saying that in the late 60’s early 70’s the climate catastrophe predictions of where we would be today aren’t anywhere remotely close to where we actually are.

Given that why should I assume the climate catastrophe predictions of today for 50 years down the road will be accurate?

Again, regardless of where you come down in this argument, you can’t see this point? Better safe than sorry at a certain price point? Sure. Better safe than sorry at any price point? I’m not sure I see that as so obvious.

 

[g00n]

I’m not saying I believe it or don’t currently. I’m simply saying that in the late 60’s early 70’s the climate catastrophe predictions of where we would be today aren’t anywhere remotely close to where we actually are.

Given that why should I assume the climate catastrophe predictions of today for 50 years down the road will be accurate?

Again, regardless of where you come down in this argument, you can’t see this point? Better safe than sorry at a certain price point? Sure. Better safe than sorry at any price point? I’m not sure I see that as so obvious.

See my previous post. This is not 50 years ago.

 

[Ajax1995]

See my previous post. This is not 50 years ago.

Sure but you don’t think 50 years ago they weren’t saying the exact same ‘now we have the technology and know what we are talking about’ things?

I guess I just think it is a little narcissistic to be saying whether it was global warming with mass starvation and half the planet’s land masses no longer being inhabitable or global cooling predictions that those guys were fools but my generation knows what the heck it is talking about.

Like a tremendous amount of things occurring today I’m pretty sure people in 50 years will look back on today’s predictions and shake their heads.

I’m not saying don’t continue to make advances and try to do as much as we reasonably can with what we know and have now. I have middle and high school age children and very much care about their future. But I definitely don’t buy into the if we don’t do X by Y then Z catastrophe predictions of today and thus my reasonable efforts bar is likely lower than many others around here.

 

[twabby]

Sure but you don’t think 50 years ago they weren’t saying the exact same ‘now we have the technology and know what we are talking about’ things?

I guess I just think it is a little narcissistic to be saying whether it was global warming with mass starvation and half the planet’s land masses no longer being inhabitable or global cooling predictions that those guys were fools but my generation knows what the heck it is talking about.

Like a tremendous amount of things occurring today I’m pretty sure people in 50 years will look back on today’s predictions and shake their heads.

I’m not saying don’t continue to make advances and try to do as much as we reasonably can with what we know and have now. I have middle and high school age children and very much care about their future. But I definitely don’t buy into the if we don’t do X by Y then Z catastrophe predictions of today and thus my reasonable efforts bar is likely lower than many others around here.

Ignoring your complete refusal to acknowledge scientific consensus, why would maximum effort to address climate catastrophe be bad at all?

It’s probably too political to discuss much further but there are plenty of proposals that would absolutely transform the economy and help the nation’s poorest people, especially in rural areas that are being destroyed currently by rampant unchecked capitalism. Addressing the climate boldly would not only save us if scientists are indeed correct, but would create jobs and make people happier. There’s no real downside.

 

[g00n]

Sure but you don’t think 50 years ago they weren’t saying the exact same ‘now we have the technology and know what we are talking about’ things?

I guess I just think it is a little narcissistic to be saying whether it was global warming with mass starvation and half the planet’s land masses no longer being inhabitable or global cooling predictions that those guys were fools but my generation knows what the heck it is talking about.

Like a tremendous amount of things occurring today I’m pretty sure people in 50 years will look back on today’s predictions and shake their heads.

I’m not saying don’t continue to make advances and try to do as much as we reasonably can with what we know and have now. I have middle and high school age children and very much care about their future. But I definitely don’t buy into the if we don’t do X by Y then Z catastrophe predictions of today and thus my reasonable efforts bar is likely lower than many others around here.

No comparison between 50 years ago vs today in tech, knowledge, resources, talent, etc.

Where do you set the line when it comes to scientific knowledge? Is anything true?

 

[Raikkonen]

Scientific knowledge is paid by guys competing in global economics.

Thats how Tesla becomes good for ecology which it isnt in reality (its just export of all toxic sides of production to the third world).

Anti-pollution movement emerged as a way to make dumb governments lose more in economical competition. It works.

Scientists are corrupt.

Fake news winning.

We call that phenomenon "British scientists" in Russia

 

[g00n]

 

[CapitalsCupReality]

Where’s my tinfoil hat?!!

 

[Calicaps]

I think we're flying too close to the political sun at this point. Let's move on.

 

[Calicaps]

No More. Next post on this topic gets a thread ban.

 

[g00n]

Shackelford: Matt Kuchar's latest act goes against spirit of the rules

More great sportsmanship and character from Kuchar.

Guys like this are the reason the Rules of Golf and the decisions book bloated in the first place. We'll never have a simplified, common sense game with people like this around.

 

[CapitalsCupReality]

Shackelford: Matt Kuchar's latest act goes against spirit of the rules

More great sportsmanship and character from Kuchar.

Guys like this are the reason the Rules of Golf and the decisions book bloated in the first place. We'll never have a simplified, common sense game with people like this around.

That’s nuts. Removes it all to give himself a good lie....

 

[Jacoby4HOF66]

 

[Jacoby4HOF66]

I want to see this.

 

[Calicaps]

I want to see this.

Finally a sports movie the husband will want to watch. He's not really into racing, but he's a gearhead. Lost his '79 911 to a hit and run last spring and has been in sports car withdrawal ever since.

 

[Ajax1995]

I want to see this.

If you are into this story there is a documentary called the 24 Hour War that you will enjoy.

 

[Jacoby4HOF66]

If you are into this story there is a documentary called the 24 Hour War that you will enjoy.

I believe I’ve seen it. At least I think I have. I’ve seen a documentary on this just don’t remember the name. It’s a fascinating story and more appealing to me then reboots and comic book movies.

 

[Silky mitts]

 

[NobodyBeatsTheWiz]

Any beer drinkers on here also get to the Aslin Anniversary Party this weekend?

 

[John Price]

All the Giants around here have sold out of Ovi O cereal

TBF I think they carried like 60 boxes per store so not surprising enterprising fans would snatch them up immediately. People were in line at 5:50 AM to get those things.

 

[Jacoby4HOF66]

 

[OVITOMMY]

 

[Jacoby4HOF66]

 

[Jacoby4HOF66]

Interesting to see if Sandler can pull this off.