GDT: 2/3//05 NHL and PA meeting

[Steve L*]

Here I thought this was supposed to be a thread about the meeting today - not a catch all for a bunch of off topic crap. Can everyone keep their comments limited to the topic please?

The thread would be empty if we did that.

 

[MissTeeks]

Is any one listening the The Fan 590 right now, what is Bob McGowan ranting about?

 

[SharkGirl27]

We were talking about the negotiating abilities of the guys involved...that is on topic.

well based on that then I would guess that the only update is that the season has been cancelled, because we'd be fooling ourselves by putting the guys involved and negotiating skills in the same sentence when it comes to Bettman and Goodenow.

 

[leaflover]

I expect the same old same old from both sides today.Serious negotiation hopefully will begin this summer and hopefully the 05/06 season can start on time.

 

[Old Hickory]

The longer the meeting goes, the better chance of a season

 

[SergeiKost99]

i jsut got home....when did the meeting start and is it still going on...ty

 

[Hemooli]

The longer the meeting goes, the better chance of a season

Definately, which rules out the improbable possibility that they are meeting to "confirm" that the season will be canceled, like some people were trying to say last night... only good things are coming from this meeting.

 

[nomorekids]

i jsut got home....when did the meeting start and is it still going on...ty

12 EST, and yes.

 

[crossxcheck]

i jsut got home....when did the meeting start and is it still going on...ty

meeting has been going on since 12PM EST (4.5 hours ) and isn't over as far as I know. Will they stick to their standard 5 hours and then either say they're meeting again tomorrow or that they "have never been further apart"? Who knows?

 

[red devil]

It has only been 4.5 hours, still a long ways to go before I have any hope. Like I said before they will need to meet for nearly 24 hours, to be close to getting a deal done.

 

[Biggest Canuck Fan]

I expect the same old same old from both sides today.Serious negotiation hopefully will begin this summer and hopefully the 05/06 season can start on time.

Same. If anything today lays the groundwork for a CBA that is finished by June and July 1 FA signings can start.

 

[Hemooli]

It has only been 4.5 hours, still a long ways to go before I have any hope. Like I said before they will need to meet for nearly 24 hours, to be close to getting a deal done.

I'm fairly certain they're closer to a deal than you think.

 

[VAN-HAB]

well based on that then I would guess that the only update is that the season has been cancelled, because we'd be fooling ourselves by putting the guys involved and negotiating skills in the same sentence when it comes to Bettman and Goodenow.

so why spent 4 hrs today to conclude that?

 

[red devil]

I'm fairly certain they're closer to a deal than you think.

I hope you are right.

 

[Old Hickory]

It has only been 4.5 hours, still a long ways to go before I have any hope. Like I said before they will need to meet for nearly 24 hours, to be close to getting a deal done.

They can hammer out a CBA in an hour or two once they get past a couple of hurdles

 

[TruGr1t]

Definately, which rules out the improbable possibility that they are meeting to "confirm" that the season will be canceled, like some people were trying to say last night... only good things are coming from this meeting.

That was a proposterous idea in the first place, why in high heaven would they meet just to say, well, the season is over. Bettman can do that by himself without leaving his office, there is obviously some form of discussion continuing and people who thought that this was simply to meet and greet to say "The season is cancelled" weren't looking at it very logically. I personally think there is still a small glimmer of hope that this season can be salvaged and as long as this meeting goes on without ANY reports whatsoever I think that hope remains. There has been not a peep yet, which I think indicates they are locked quite heatedly in some real negotiations, not all this posturing stuff that has composed the majority of the other meetings. Like "NHLPA Representative X emerges to say owners offer is crap!". Notice that isn't happening now.

 

[Biggest Canuck Fan]

That was a proposterous idea in the first place, why in high heaven would they meet just to say, well, the season is over. Bettman can do that by himself without leaving his office, there is obviously some form of discussion continuing and people who thought that this was simply to meet and greet to say "The season is cancelled" weren't looking at it very logically. I personally think there is still a small glimmer of hope that this season can be salvaged and as long as this meeting goes on without ANY reports whatsoever I think that hope remains. There has been not a peep yet, which I think indicates they are locked quite heatedly in some real negotiations, not all this posturing stuff that has composed the majority of the other meetings. Like "NHLPA Representative X emerges to say owners offer is crap!". Notice that isn't happening now.

I wouldn't be suprised if the owners accept a Luxury tax that has major bite like a cap, so both sides can declare a victory.

 

[Satan81]

12 EST, and yes.

According to tsn, the meeting started at around 1:30, which would make it only 3 hours now.

"Sources indicate the meeting began around 1:30pm et at an undisclosed location in New York."

 

[red devil]

They can hammer out a CBA in an hour or two once they get past a couple of hurdles

You may be right, but I'd rather not get my hopes up.

 

[Old Hickory]

I want to know why every article on the cba ends the same way

No major North American sports league ever has lost an entire season due to a labor dispute. A Stanley Cup champion has been crowned every year since 1893 with the exception of 1919, when the Finals were canceled after five games due to a flu epidemic.

 

[CRAZY_FAN]

Wow, talk about suspence...almost 5h into the meeting now this has to be a good sign !

 

[HAWKSWINHAWKSWIN]

Wow, talk about suspence...almost 5h into the meeting now this has to be a good sign !

This is deja vu all over again....

 

[leaflover]

I want to know why every article on the cba ends the same way

They are definately fanatical about ending the articles that way.Not sure what the reason is behind that daily reminder,maybe they're hoping the NHL and PA are reading them and will acknowledge the dangers associated with this mess.

 

[417]

I want to know why every article on the cba ends the same way

I guess it's to magnify the significance of a cancelled season...

 

[SharkGirl27]

It's been just over 3 hour meeting if it started at 1:30 which TSN is reporting

2:30, 3:30, 4:30 + 20 minutes = 3hrs 20 min.

edit- put 4:40 instead of 4:30