Gardiner's prospect grade needs to be fixed

[Avery4Byng*]

You know who sucks too?
Thornton. And Heatley. And Hossa. And Rask. And Kessel. And every player who has ever been traded.

Gretzky too.... Come to think of it..... Gardiner>Gretzky

 

[Alternatively]

In what world can you justify Gardiner being equal too Gudbransson, Paajarvi, Johansen and Schenn and Considered better than Franson, Blum, Skinner and Nino. This needs to be fixed.

I demand it!!

 

[Canad93]

Gretzky too.... Come to think of it..... Gardiner>Gretzky

I didn't think you could lower the bar after the previous comment. Impressive.

 

[Avery4Byng*]

I didn't think you could lower the bar after the previous comment. Impressive.

I didnt think everyone on HF was so serious. Impressive.

 

[Savvy]

This actually took a lot longer then I expected.

 

[Alternatively]

I didnt think everyone on HF was so serious. Impressive.

Sarcasm on the internet is like winking on the phone.

 

[Namikaze Minato]

Sarcasm on the internet is like winking on the phone.

except when you can see quite clearly that there is sarcasm, like this case.

 

[DoYouBeleaf]

It seems people not that he has become a Leaf, his ranking should instantly change based on the team he plays for. Basically like saying Kessel is terrible because he plays on the Leafs.

 

[CandiedBacon]

Not trying to leafs hate was just checking out their top prospects hell he's equal to Kadri. Should be 7.5C or 7.0C.

This whole thread was taken absolutely out of context.

 

[zeke]

He's better than Hickey. Therefore rated higher than Hickey.

not really any other choice.

 

[McDNicks17]

God forbid a big D with top notch skating and a solid defensive game who's a PPG player be ranked a 8.0C...

 

[LeafsandSharksfan]

You know who sucks too?
Thornton. And Heatley. And Hossa. And Rask. And Kessel. And every player who has ever been traded.

Pff, only Hossa has a cup ring and that was on a stacked Blackhawks team...

 

[phillipmike]

Not trying to leafs hate was just checking out their top prospects hell he's equal to Kadri. Should be 7.5C or 7.0C.

This whole thread was taken absolutely out of context.

The thing is Gardiner has been an 8.0C prospect ever since he was drafted in 2008.

What has he done to be bumped down?

He had a good rookie season in college. He had a rough second year.

In his third year he is 11th in the league in scoring (as a defencemen) and 2nd in the league in defensive scoring.

Why does his rating need to go down now?

 

[Hunter Gathers]

The thing is Gardiner has been an 8.0C prospect ever since he was drafted in 2008.

What has he done to be bumped down?

He had a good rookie season in college. He had a rough second year.

In his third year he is 11th in the league in scoring (as a defencemen) and 2nd in the league in defensive scoring.

Why does his rating need to go down now?

Because he doesn't really have top pairing potential (8.0 means topping out as a very good #2 d-man). Watching him in college, it's pretty clear, really. He struggles with reading the play.

He's a solid prospect, but much more in the 3/4 mold than a top 2 d-man. He's not smart enough in terms of hockey sense to rate higher.

 

[Amadeus]

Because he doesn't really have top pairing potential (8.0 means topping out as a very good #2 d-man). Watching him in college, it's pretty clear, really. He struggles with reading the play.

He's a solid prospect, but much more in the 3/4 mold than a top 2 d-man. He's not smart enough in terms of hockey sense to rate higher.

I think 8 means a safe bet to be a top 4 defenseman, and not a top 2. I'm just speculating here. I'd figure 9 would be the top pairing grade.

As it is, I think Gardiner has the potential to be a solid defenseman in the NHL, but not a great one. Even if he can become a solid number 4, I'd be happy.

 

[Leafidelity]

He should be a -4F

 

[Dutch Dreams]

In what world can you justify Gardiner being equal too Gudbransson, Paajarvi, Johansen and Schenn and Considered better than Franson, Blum, Skinner and Nino. This needs to be fixed.

All of those except Skinner project about Gardiner's level at this point. I'd rate each one a 7.5C, again, except Skinner - he's definitely more of an 8.

 

[Nasty Nazem]

I think 8 means a safe bet to be a top 4 defenseman, and not a top 2. I'm just speculating here. I'd figure 9 would be the top pairing grade.

As it is, I think Gardiner has the potential to be a solid defenseman in the NHL, but not a great one. Even if he can become a solid number 4, I'd be happy.

8 is top pairing but he has a C attached to it which means he is likely to be a top 4 defensemen but his ceiling is a top pairing defensemen but it's unlikely he hits that which is why he is a C.

Shockingly, the other person chooses to complain about the grade after Gardiner gets traded to the Leafs and not the 2 years before that.

 

[Sonny21]

Lmao

 

[dubey]

I enjoyed this thread

Thanks OP

 

[nitz]

i ****ing HATE this website sometimes.

 

[gifted88]

God forbid a big D with top notch skating and a solid defensive game who's a PPG player be ranked a 8.0C...

^this

ha ha ha, oh HF you amuse me.

 

[NUhockey]

Who cares. The same website graded Stamkos an 8B.

 

[Turboflex*]

If anything Jake Gardiner needs to be boosted a few grades. This guy is gonna be an all star, the next freaking lidstrom!! boy did Burke make an AMAZING trade, that guy is such a genius.

 

[IkeaMonkey*]

i ****ing HATE this website sometimes.

Well, at least it's only "sometimes" for you. I've had that feeling for the past 6 years now.