Blue Jays Discussion: Guys are getting hurt, but Grichuk is mashing.

[Discoverer]

With Benintendi out, the Red Sox tank has some momentum

And they already sucked!

 

[Suntouchable13]

With Benintendi out, the Red Sox tank has some momentum

Not necessarily. They could replace him with a player that will hit above .105. You never know.

 

[hockeywiz542]

Mark Shapiro on Vlad Jr., Nate Pearson, and getting set-up in Buffalo

August 13, 2020

The Blue Jays President and CEO discusses the weeks leading up to getting Buffalo ready for the club, how prospects are staying ready, developing, the organization's plan if a COVID-19 outbreak was to affect the team, Vlad Guerrero Jr.'s development, expectations for Nate Pearson, and what the trade deadline may look like.

 

[DueDiligence]

Mark Shapiro on Vlad Jr., Nate Pearson, and getting set-up in Buffalo

August 13, 2020

The Blue Jays President and CEO discusses the weeks leading up to getting Buffalo ready for the club, how prospects are staying ready, developing, the organization's plan if a COVID-19 outbreak was to affect the team, Vlad Guerrero Jr.'s development, expectations for Nate Pearson, and what the trade deadline may look like.

Vladdy's offseason workout was continuous reps of lifting his fingers/fork off his plate to his mouth.

 

[canucksfan]

Looking at the wRC of the Jays, few of the players are lower than they should be now. If either one has a big game it will jump up quite a bit though.

Grichuk 95
Biggio 94
Vlad 90
Tellez 86
Gurriel 85

Tellez and Biggio have BAPIP lower than .200. So being unlucky might be there problem.

 

[Leafs at Knight]

Don't get me wrong Vlad has sucked a lot this year but grown adults making fun of a 20 year olds weight is both cringe and pathetic.

 

[TheMadHatTrick]

Don't get me wrong Vlad has sucked a lot this year but grown adults making fun of a 20 year olds weight is both cringe and pathetic.

Never been to a comedy set have you?

 

[Blitzkrug]

Don't get me wrong Vlad has sucked a lot this year but grown adults making fun of a 20 year olds weight is both cringe and pathetic.

Weight isn't even his biggest problem right now. People are going overboard. Not to mention the fact the kid is only 21 and still has a fast metabolism. A summer away from grandma and he's probably down 20 pounds instantly contrary to what people think.

David Ortiz and Prince Fielder were fatbois. No one cared because they could hit fat dingers. Hell Fielder's downfall wasn't even related to his weight and that dude weighed as much as a truck even at the end of his career. Papi had a nice long career as well.

The concerning thing to me isn't really his actual weight. It's more what does his weight say about his work ethic and level of commitment? You can be a big boy and still have a good career. You cannot however have a good career while being a big boy and not giving enough of a damn.

Fix the fact he's hitting like absolute trash first, then worry about the weight.

 

[phillipmike]

Which Dominican teen shortstop will be best?

The two Dominican shortstops were highly coveted on the international market, with the Blue Jays giving Martinez the largest bonus any 16-year-old received in 2018 ($3.51 million) and the Athletics doing the same for Puason in 2019 ($5.1 million). Martinez starred in the Rookie-level Gulf Coast League last summer in his debut, while Puason has yet to play his first pro game but is in Oakland's alternate camp as the youngest player on any 60-man list.

Martinez is the more physical of the two and has more offensive upside, particularly in terms of power. Puason is taller, leaner and more athletic, as well as quicker and a better defender at shortstop. Both have plus arms, but Martinez likely will take his to third base in the long run.

They're pretty comparable as prospects and aren't too far away from joining MLB Pipeline's Top 100 list. I'd give a slight edge to Puason but Martinez has drawn some Adrián Beltré comps, so it's a tough call.

 

[Anthrax442]

If you want your cutout at the game:

Fan Cutouts

 

[BertCorbeau]

If you want your cutout at the game:

Fan Cutouts

I'm telling you - the man in white in centre field with a camera.

 

[AllDay28]

Weight isn't even his biggest problem right now. People are going overboard. Not to mention the fact the kid is only 21 and still has a fast metabolism. A summer away from grandma and he's probably down 20 pounds instantly contrary to what people think.

David Ortiz and Prince Fielder were fatbois. No one cared because they could hit fat dingers. Hell Fielder's downfall wasn't even related to his weight and that dude weighed as much as a truck even at the end of his career. Papi had a nice long career as well.

The concerning thing to me isn't really his actual weight. It's more what does his weight say about his work ethic and level of commitment? You can be a big boy and still have a good career. You cannot however have a good career while being a big boy and not giving enough of a damn.

Fix the fact he's hitting like absolute trash first, then worry about the weight.

people forget he came into camp 20 pounds lighter. It sucks he gained 40 during covid but it’s not like he could get to a gym or anything anyways.

that being said it’s still worrisome. He’s pissing hundreds of millions of dollars away.

 

[TheBeastCoast]

people forget he came into camp 20 pounds lighter. It sucks he gained 40 during covid but it’s not like he could get to a gym or anything anyways.

that being said it’s still worrisome. He’s pissing hundreds of millions of dollars away.

Eh I don't know he didn't look that much smaller at the first camp despite all the talk about how much weight he lost over the winter. Not to rack the guy over the coals over it. It is what it is, it is more so disappointing then anything else.

 

[BarDownBobo]

With Benintendi out, the Red Sox tank has some momentum

As someone who owns Benintendi in a fantasy pool I can tell you he was one of the guys commanding the tank up to this point.

 

[phillipmike]

Smoaky broke up Darvish's no hitter in the 7th last night.

Hopefully he can use this to fuel the rest of his season as he is striking out 38% of the time with a walk rate of 2% and a BABIP of .313.

Darvish with a great 18 months to get his career back on track. That contract was looking brutal after year 1.

 

[canucksfan]

 

[Blitzkrug]

Hopefully Roark can find his footing after that brutal outing in Boston

Probably will help having regular downtime between starts too.

 

[hockeywiz542]

 

[phillipmike]

Indians Option Mike Clevinger, Zach Plesac

The Indians have reinstated starters Mike Clevinger and Zach Plesac from the restricted list. In a surprising twist, both rotation members have been optioned to the alternate training site.

This news comes in the aftermath of a forehead-smacking decision by this talented pair of right-handed hurlers. They each violated collectively bargained MLB coronavirus protocols and then — as rotation mate Adam Plutko explained — lied to the team about their poor decisions.

Im very happy to see this. This is how you deal with stupid decisions, the Marlins and Cards should take note.

 

[Anthrax442]

I'm telling you - the man in white in centre field with a camera.

Too bad theres isnt one in Buffalo

 

[BertCorbeau]

So the bats have woken up.

Looks like having a home park has given the team some composure and calmness.

 

[Woodman19]

If Hernandez is indeed legit, that takes a ton of pressure off the core. That swing...

 

[canucksfan]

Indians Option Mike Clevinger, Zach Plesac



Im very happy to see this. This is how you deal with stupid decisions, the Marlins and Cards should take note.

That’s great. This virus is serious. Can lead to complications that impact the individual well after they have recovered from it. Death is also a possibility with teams older personnel,

 

[Anthrax442]

If Hernandez is indeed legit, that takes a ton of pressure off the core. That swing...

Is Teoscar pulling an Encarnacion?

 

[TheMadHatTrick]

Do you guys think we keep Borucki in relief next year or stretch him back out? I think he looks too dominant in the pen to move him at this point, especially given his injury history. Being able to throw 95-96 in short outings versus 92-93 over a whole start seems to agree with him. I see him being our own Brad Hand/Josh Nader which is plenty valuable.

With Romano's emergence that gives us two major relief weapons set, who we have control over for about 5 more years each.

I think Thornton should also eventually join them as a reliever. His stuff would play up into the upper 90s, as would his spotty command.

That would mean however that we'd have to build a rotation out of:

Ryu
Pearson
Hatch
Kay
Roark
Anderson
SWR
Murphy
Manoah