Mighty Makar
I hate this fu*ken team
- May 24, 2016
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I’m talking about fans wearing their jerseys, haha.Yeah, they were both there.
Nobody is saying Zack Kassian is supposed to be scared of Zadorov.
What we are saying, is that if Zack Kassian makes that hit on MacKinnon a minute into the game with Zadorov in our lineup (and not nursing a broken jaw to boot), there's a very, very strong possibility that one of McDavid/Draisaitl are going to get run right back by him.
The Avs did nothing last night to retaliate. Even Calvert's little hug fest with Kassian. We simply didn't have the type of player that could respond to being roughed around last night. Zadorov changes all of that.
I don’t understand. What does that do for the Avalanche?Nobody is saying Zack Kassian is supposed to be scared of Zadorov.
What we are saying, is that if Zack Kassian makes that hit on MacKinnon a minute into the game with Zadorov in our lineup (and not nursing a broken jaw to boot), there's a very, very strong possibility that one of McDavid/Draisaitl are going to get run right back by him.
The Avs did nothing last night to retaliate. Even Calvert's little hug fest with Kassian. We simply didn't have the type of player that could respond to being roughed around last night. Zadorov changes all of that.
I would have come off the bench and gone after Kassian when he did his Superman leap at Compher when they were 5-1 up
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I don’t want someone on the team that head hunts or anything but I do think we need another physical presence up front as the Avs are just way too soft, especially with Z and Lando out. The biggest thing last night was Edmonton set the tone early and the Avs had no response. It’s also not helpful that Mack falls off once he gets played physical.
Again, nobody is saying anything about Kassian being scared of Zadorov, nor head hunting.I don’t understand. What does that do for the Avalanche?
look I’m the biggest advocate on here of what Zadorov brings. People are terrified on the ice and avoid matching up against him. It’s a big benefit even if the guy doesn’t have a clue how to play hockey. But Kassian isn’t scared of him and Zadorov being in the lineup changes nothing. How does Zadorov going around head hunting Mcdavid after that hit accomplish anything for Colorado? Hope he hurts him or something? That would be terrible.
Mackinnon got steam rolled on his button hook and that was going to happen regardless of who else was in Colorado’s lineup. Following that hit, Calvert drops the gloves and gets rag dolled but still the entire Avs bench goes nuts out of respect and they score the next shift. Even though Calvert had a “hug fest” as you called it. He sparked the team enough to score on the next shift.
Zadorov brings a presence no doubt, but him being in the lineup doesn’t change what Kassian did last night.
Bud read my post history about Zadorov. I preach the exact same sentiment as you. All I’m saying is that having Zadorov last night doesn’t change what Kassian did to us.Again, nobody is saying anything about Kassian being scared of Zadorov, nor head hunting.
Zadorov keeps players honest. If Kassian wanted to make it his mission to target MacKinnon yesterday with huge hits, you know that Zadorov was going to make it his mission to target the Oilers' best players and make it extremely difficult on them. Z isn't a dirty player, nobody is saying he should run them from behind or aim for their heads. But we are saying that Zadorov is a deterrent, and a damn good one at that.
I don't think you'll agree, and that's fine. But I 100% believe Zadorov changes the way players play this game and take runs at our better players. The Avalanche had nothing last night. Nobody wanted anything to do with physical play. Z changes that.
The Avs responded by first fighting Kassian and then immediately scoring a goal to make it 1-0. As for MacKinnon, we only have to go back a few days to see what happened when another team tried to be physical with him and get under his skin. First he let their bench know what's on his mind and then he went on to have a four point game.
Could they be tougher? Sure. I don't think that's too much of a factor in their wins/losses though. If anything, I think they could use another puck mover on defense rather than someone who might be considered tougher and harder to forecheck.
Are EDM fans really getting braggy about beating up on Adam Werner and outplaying our preseason roster? Lol. See you next time.
Who? I need to see this.Yes
I mean I guess we should take it as a compliment that they still beat a "really good team" despite the fact we are missing like 1/3 of our opening night roster including 2/3 of the best 1st line in hockey
Thoughts:
1. That Kassian hit was not the result of lack of toughness on the Avs' part--it's because MacKinnon relies on that move WAY too much and Kassian took full advantage. Dude was MVP caliber the one year he finally ditched it and just tried powering/speeding his way to the net. He really needs to do that again. That move is really tired, the coaches should be trying to get him to stop using it, or at the VERY least, go deeper in the zone before slamming on the brakes.
2. The PK is bad and has been bad for years now. The only reason it got good in the 2nd half of last season is because the goaltending improved significantly. The system in front is still utter ****. They've gone from semi-passive to VERY passive and it's just not acceptable. They need to figure that out, because it's ridiculous that they've added a whole slew of very good defensive-minded forwards and it actually looks WORSE than it did last season.
3. First time I think I can remember that Jared Bednar said something kinda dumb. Claiming the only reason they take so many penalties is because they draw so many is inane, and mostly inaccurate. They take penalties, and far, far too many of the dumb variety. AND FOR FFS QUIT COMMITTING TOO MANY MEN INFRACTIONS.
4. Werner unfortunately looked every bit like a guy playing his 2nd-ever NHL game. Oh well.
5. I'm just gonna say it--haven't liked the play of EJ for a while now. Once again, even on a deeper, more talented blueline, he's getting way overworked. Cole was pretty awful last night too.
Rough outing...it's gonna happen when you can't kill penalties and the best player on the planet is in a groove. Moving on...
Who? I need to see this.
Graves had the puck too much last night
No. He was on the ice too much last night. Guy was beyond horrible.Graves had the puck too much last night
He was really, really awful last night. He's had a few good nights but he's been subpar for the most part. Reminds me of Holden a lot in that he can look good at times but he's mostly a #7 who can fill-in as a #6 at times.
Our problems on D stems from the fact that Girard hasn't been as good the last 5-10 games or so and has fallen off. Whether that's trying to do too much or whatever, he hasn't been his normal self. Combine that with EJ seemingly struggling, we've only got Makar right now that's playing well.
Hopefully once we get some healthy bodies back in the lineup, we start to look better.
This is true, but taking runs at MacKinnon opens the gate at Zadorov taking runs at McDavid/Draisaitl. Not that I like an eye for an eye mentality, but it's more about policing the game for me,Just so you guys know, Zack Kassian is not scared of Zadorov. Like not even slightly. I’d bet it’s the other way around.
I'd like them to go back to Zads-EJ like the good old days. G-EJ doesn't really work for some reason even though you'd think it should.
G-Makar
Zad-EJ
Graves-Cole
Play the top 4 more
Or
Zad-EJ
G-Cole
Graves-Makar
With more equal time.