Thus, both sets of Canucks' fans should be satisfied. The tankers because the team is losing and the don't tank group because they are not losing on purpose. This is what an ailing team looks like, the team keeps working hard and doing its best, but its best is not good enough to actually win. Therefore the draft lottery is in reach, but no one can cry foul.
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Thus, both sets of Canucks' fans should be satisfied. The tankers because the team is losing and the don't tank group because they are not losing on purpose. This is what an ailing team looks like, the team keeps working hard and doing its best, but its best is not good enough to actually win. Therefore the draft lottery is in reach, but no one can cry foul.
Pretty much this. Problem is people take the term 'tanking' too literally and presume it means 'losing on purpose' every time it gets used. Most teams that lose aren't losing on purpose, they are just ... bad. In a dichotomous win-lose league, there will always be 'bad' teams. Doesn't mean they want to be bad, or lose on purpose, or the players have given up. I mean if they faced your Saturday beer league team they'd still shred them 94-0 but at this level they are just a notch below the best and average teams.
We are now one of those teams. Nothing more, nothing less.
You took my explanation to the simplest degree. You explain that perfectly for those who might still have a problem with the Canucks "tanking".
Hung in there decently for awhile, then outclassed.
Positives :
- Vey actually is playing well. He's still not a good player, but he's doing a lot of cute things to create space and get pucks to his linemates in good positions.
- Virtanen and Baertschi didn't have their best games, but continue to show reasons for optimism.
- Hamhuis was terrific and Weber had his best game of the year. That pairing was very good. Looked like the Weber we saw at the end of last year.
- Gaunce doesn't look out of place at all and had some good moments.
- Hutton still looks good, even when saddled with Sbisa.
- credit to Dorsett for going after McNabb who was taking way too many runs at people.
- Burrows was excellent. Games like this show he still has plenty left in the tank and can skill skate very well at this level.
Negatives :
- Miller looked good in the first, awful the rest of the way. Absolutely ridiculous he keeps playing so much when Markstrom is playing so well.
- Sbisa is just terrible. Out of position on each of the first 3 GA. Just an atrocious player.
- Granlund largely invisible again. Can tell he's smart and usually in the right places but just is so small and ineffectual.
- Horvat needs to get his head in the game. He's playing like a creampuff Russian dangler right now. Skating well but doing nothing but trying fancy 1-on-1 moves than doing huge circles in the offensive zone when it doesn't work. Not showing the grit and character we know he has.
- Vrbata was awful. Yeah, first game back, but he stunk.
Positives :
- Vey actually is playing well. He's still not a good player, but he's doing a lot of cute things to create space and get pucks to his linemates in good positions.
- Virtanen and Baertschi didn't have their best games, but continue to show reasons for optimism.
- Hamhuis was terrific and Weber had his best game of the year. That pairing was very good. Looked like the Weber we saw at the end of last year.
- Gaunce doesn't look out of place at all and had some good moments.
- Hutton still looks good, even when saddled with Sbisa.
- credit to Dorsett for going after McNabb who was taking way too many runs at people.
- Burrows was excellent. Games like this show he still has plenty left in the tank and can skill skate very well at this level.
Negatives :
- Miller looked good in the first, awful the rest of the way. Absolutely ridiculous he keeps playing so much when Markstrom is playing so well.
- Sbisa is just terrible. Out of position on each of the first 3 GA. Just an atrocious player.
- Granlund largely invisible again. Can tell he's smart and usually in the right places but just is so small and ineffectual.
- Horvat needs to get his head in the game. He's playing like a creampuff Russian dangler right now. Skating well but doing nothing but trying fancy 1-on-1 moves than doing huge circles in the offensive zone when it doesn't work. Not showing the grit and character we know he has.
- Vrbata was awful. Yeah, first game back, but he stunk.
God what a terrible, terrible hockey player. Bartowski too. Empty net, let's pass it directly to a King in our own zone.
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I have your gold medal Zippy!
Not worse than trading away TWO ELITE goalies (like Gilligan did); course, that's one of the reasons why he ain't the GM anymore. Not sure about the positives that Jethro Bodine is providing other than a good high pick this draft (course that's not really a compliment).
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Soo... what can we reasonably expect for next year?
Sedin - Sedin - FA
Baertschi - Horvat - Virtanen
Burrows - Sutter - Hansen
Some kind 4th line mashup of Gaunce, Vey, Dorsett, Etem, Granlund, crappy FA grinder Benning will "target"
Tanev - Edler
Hamhuis - Hutton
Sbsia - Tryamkin
Biega / Pedan / Larsen
Miller
Marky
Should be good for a lottery pick in 2017 as well.
Sedin - Sedin - FA
Baertschi - Horvat - Virtanen
Burrows - Sutter - Hansen
Some kind 4th line mashup of Gaunce, Vey, Dorsett, Etem, Granlund, crappy FA grinder Benning will "target"
Tanev - Edler
Hamhuis - Hutton
Sbsia - Tryamkin
Biega / Pedan / Larsen
Miller
Marky
Should be good for a lottery pick in 2017 as well.
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Bart has not improved one bit this season.
One step forward, two steps back, three steps forward, one step back...
He has NHL level skills but lacks an NHL brain. Sort of like our management.
What exactly is Bart trying to accomplish with that pass through two Kings players into the middle of the ice with an empty net?
He sees a target and then executes regardless of what else is going on in the environment. Sort of like how our management targets individual players and then executes regardless of how much value we have to give up.
I hope he enjoys his 1.75M as I highly doubt he will ever get another NHL job again. IE. If you can't make it on Jimbo's Canucks, then yer SOL.
One step forward, two steps back, three steps forward, one step back...
He has NHL level skills but lacks an NHL brain. Sort of like our management.
What exactly is Bart trying to accomplish with that pass through two Kings players into the middle of the ice with an empty net?
He sees a target and then executes regardless of what else is going on in the environment. Sort of like how our management targets individual players and then executes regardless of how much value we have to give up.
I hope he enjoys his 1.75M as I highly doubt he will ever get another NHL job again. IE. If you can't make it on Jimbo's Canucks, then yer SOL.
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Think back to how bad Sbisa was in the regular season and then into the playoffs... and this management group gave him a new contract with a raise.
I'm scared to death they'll do anything similar with Bartkowski.
me2
Go ahead foot
Hopefully Benning is too in love with his new guys (Larsen, Tryamkin and Pedan) and forgets about him. But hey you never know he might let Hamhuis walk to keep the guy.
me2
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Indeed. I hate Dorsett's fights more than just about anyone else because he just wastes everyone's time fighting scrubs and worse AHL callups who want to impress their boss rather than guys that need to be fight. That fight was good fight, fighting a decent player, fighting someone taking runs.
GJ Dorsett.
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Don't be too harsh on the management team, they gave him the extension way before the playoffs
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I actually did this today, with current ages in brackets:
Sedin (35) - Sedin (35) - FA (Eriksson)
Baertschi (23) - Sutter (27) - Virtanen (19)
Hansen (29) - Horvat (20) - Rodin (25)
Etem (23) - Granlund (22) - Dorsett (29)/Gaunce (21)
Edler (29) - Tanev (26)
Hutton (22) - Sbisa (26)
Pedan (22) - Tryamkin (21)
Larsen (26)
Markstrom (26)
Miller (35)
I suck at what sides our D play, if the pairings have guys on the wrong side, but I think those are the 7 + Biega as the 8.
Are there three worse contracts relative to performance in the entire NHL than Sibsa, Dorsett and Miller?...I suppose there could be...but just think of it....$12 million in cap space for this year and beyond...mind-boggling.
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