Post-Game Talk: Game 6 - B's start with Rockie Mountain low and don't recover - Flames 5 BRUINS 2 F

[Mainehockey33]

I have heard nothing good about JFK yet this season and he showed nothing in the preseason to warrant staying with the team.

To me the answer is trade some of the wunderkids and get at least one, hopefully two, established NHL forwards who can score.

That works for me too but I wouldn’t mind seeing how Heinen looks there in the mean time. Heinen can skate so it’s a step up. Still hoping for Duchene or Nylander but I’m not holding my breath.

 

[UncleRico]

At what point is Cassidy going to stop sitting guys like Heinen and donato before he realizes the problem with secondary scoring is backes?

Another game of backes playing against low quality of competition and he got 3 minutes of power play time and he did nothing.

If backes doesn’t start producing by the end of the road trip, it’s either time to call up JFK or frederic, make a trade, or let donato center bjork and heinen

 

[KrejciMVP]

At what point is Cassidy going to stop sitting guys like Heinen and donato before he realizes the problem with secondary scoring is backes?

Another game of backes playing against low quality of competition and he got 3 minutes of power play time and he did nothing.

If backes doesn’t start producing by the end of the road trip, it’s either time to call up JFK or frederic, make a trade, or let donato center bjork and heinen

Not sure which is more boring, watching Backes play or having to comment on it. Cant they just let one of the centers from Providence play 3C?

 

[jgatie]

Folks, its October.

Remember last October?

No, didn't think you did.

9-7-4 with a goal diff of -5 in the month of October and everyone was resigned to getting a good draft pick.

Things did not come together until November and then again when the team got healthy in December.
Even in November, we were all sweating over not being in a playoff spot by Thanksgiving.

Then they tore up the league.

I understand there are some issues with the team, not gonna debate that. But this is an 80+ game sport, not football where every game is of vast importance because there they are only in the teens.
Take a breather and let the people who are paid to straighten the team out get the job done.

A lot of people here panic every time their teams loses. If your happiness is dependant on your sports teams wins streak then you need to take a hard, serious, look at your life. It's a game, entertainment.

 

[UncleRico]

Not sure which is more boring, watching Backes play or having to comment on it. Cant they just let one of the centers from Providence play 3C?

He has brought absolutely nothing so far this year. All while getting chances on the power play and against opposing teams 3rd and 4th lines.

I hate seeing guys like donato and heinen being healthy scratched for backes. Cassidy needs to figure something out. I’m not even worried about the regular season. I’m thinking playoffs. If the bruins don’t improve at 3rd line center they can count on an early exit from the playoffs again.

 

[Salem13]

Everyone is whining about Backes did any of you see how lost Donato is off the puck?

He has no business being on the ice defensively, he should just change off rather than wander around.

 

[Seidenbergy]

some people calling for a trade before taking one of your three 35 goal scorers off the 1st line and putting him on the 2nd? We won't win with 1 line.

Ummmm, they won plenty last year, no?

2 great lines are better than 1 amazing.

Not necessarily. The Bs and their "1 great line" managed to score the 6th most goals in the entire league last season and were only 6 goals away from the #2 spot. Who cares if it comes from 1 line, 2 lines, 3 lines or all 4 lines? Goals are goals.

A ton of bad things can come from breaking them up. I honestly don't see much in the way of positives.

 

[Ratty]

At what point is Cassidy going to stop sitting guys like Heinen and donato before he realizes the problem with secondary scoring is backes?

Another game of backes playing against low quality of competition and he got 3 minutes of power play time and he did nothing.

If backes doesn’t start producing by the end of the road trip, it’s either time to call up JFK or frederic, make a trade, or let donato center bjork and heinen

Like the last phrase. After the three kid centers were found wanting, Kuraly proved (so far) to be a 4th liner, and Backes has laid a dinosaur egg, what's to lose by giving Donato a shot?

 

[Salem13]

Like the last phrase. After the three kid centers were found wanting, Kuraly proved (so far) to be a 4th liner, and Backes has laid a dinosaur egg, what's to lose by giving Donato a shot?

I'm thinking a hockey game and two points, that's what to lose as Donato as center.

The idea is ludicrous. The kid needs a good year in the P.

 

[Bruinfanatic]

Like the last phrase. After the three kid centers were found wanting, Kuraly proved (so far) to be a 4th liner, and Backes has laid a dinosaur egg, what's to lose by giving Donato a shot?

Yeah Bruins definitely need to soon develop another young centre,I think going with Backes is stupid,not sure if Donato is the answer,if they don’t think anyone in Providence is ready,then they need to make a move to get one.

 

[easton117]

After giving it some thought, which I said I wouldn’t, there is one thing that stands out to me in Bruins losses.

This team never drives the net. Ever.

The first line is good enough to tic tac toe the puck through the net.

Lines 2-3 are not. If you’re in a funk, which they have been since last season, keep it simple. Drive the puck towards the net, grow some stones, and go. Get. It.

Toronto does this well up and down their lineup. Everything is played below the dots.

Line 4 for Boston does it but I don’t think we’re expecting much from them.

Keeps it simple. Keeps the turnovers down. And score some beauty goals off the skate blades and bum padding. They all look the same in the stat sheet.

 

[BigBear83]

not to pile on, but watching our younger skilled guys make plays to krejci and backes and seeing the puck die on their stick or miss a nice breakout because they cant catch up is becoming way too common early on in these games.. krejci has about three good shifts and then the rest is some "prayer stick handling skill" that is turned over and headed back the other way. even nordstrom's possesion seemed better than his last night...

 

[RedeyeRocketeer]

Krejci's fall from very good 2C to mediocre has been painful. I know it's always his wingers fault, but he is vital to our long term success. I still think he can do it, but will he?

You and I have pretty different ways we go about addressing each other in threads. You're a bit aggressive and dismissive with me, that's your way, sometimes it crosses the line and sometimes it doesn't.

What I don't get is how you get to decide when you want to call a legacy player "mediocre" or "painful" or bad. When others do it, you pounce. When you do it, it's...just your opinion.

I'm simply posting here to show you that your opinion is respected, you can talk about poor performing players and coaches and execs, and the world does not end.

And fwiw I agree with another poster. Krejci at 3C sounds real nice. So 2C up for grabs.

 

[Bmessy]

Ummmm, they won plenty last year, no?



Not necessarily. The Bs and their "1 great line" managed to score the 6th most goals in the entire league last season and were only 6 goals away from the #2 spot. Who cares if it comes from 1 line, 2 lines, 3 lines or all 4 lines? Goals are goals.

A ton of bad things can come from breaking them up. I honestly don't see much in the way of positives.

Wanna hang up an eastern conference quarter finalist banner?

 

[KrejciMVP]

Wanna hang up an eastern conference quarter finalist banner?

I wouldn't put it past this management group

 

[Bruinaura]

Glad I didn't stay up apparently this one was a stinker

Tuukka had a couple good saves, and both Bruins goals were nice.

Other than that....ick.

 

[cska78]

No-body taking Backes unless you send a high pick or top prospect their way. I really dont feel the wingers are the problem. DeBrusk is one if the Best young wingers in the game. If Sweeney can go out and acquire a legitimate number two center and move Krejci to where he belongs down to the 3rd center spot, the Bruins would have 3 very good lines and with the 4th line doing exactly what you want a 4th line to do on most nights, the Bruins would become legit contenders.

No argument about Backes, I have no problem sweetening it with Heinen for example (or Bjork). Putting Krejci on third line would have been possible during the super-clubs era (the edmontons and the pittsburgs and detroits). There is not team in the league today (may be other than Toronto) where Krejci is a third line center. He is a first liner on almost any team in this league.

 

[cska78]

Just checking, but based on your previous post, it sounds like you didn’t watch the game?

It’s hard to make observations about players in a game, if one doesn’t watch said game and only looks at a stat sheet.

no arguments here, just stats and xm radio report on the game.

 

[sportsvg]

Game was closer than the stat line, no puck luck for the B's there were a lot of bouncing pucks and we didn't seem to end on the right side of many (other than the Bergeron goal). Don't think they did a good job keeping the puck away from Smith on the dump ins and the PP was off (bouncing puck didn't help either team on the PP).

Don't get the Krejci hate on here, I thought he looked decent especially on the defensive side, he does a great job of being in the right spot in the D zone, some of the young kids should be paying attention. He looks lazy sometimes because he doesn't waste energy chasing the game and he is playing beside Debrusk who will make someone who focuses on position and change of pace look really slow since he is going full tilt all the time no matter what. Love Debrusk and his game, reminds me of younger Pasta (not based on style of play, talking about the efficiency and hockey IQ side) before he settled in and learned what it takes to be successful and consistent in an 82 game season.

 

[LouJersey]

You and I have pretty different ways we go about addressing each other in threads. You're a bit aggressive and dismissive with me, that's your way, sometimes it crosses the line and sometimes it doesn't.

What I don't get is how you get to decide when you want to call a legacy player "mediocre" or "painful" or bad. When others do it, you pounce. When you do it, it's...just your opinion.

I'm simply posting here to show you that your opinion is respected, you can talk about poor performing players and coaches and execs, and the world does not end.

And fwiw I agree with another poster. Krejci at 3C sounds real nice. So 2C up for grabs.

My issue with you is nothing is ever positive and you dig up player threads to rip them, I apologized in the Backes thread because you didn't know he got knocked out of the game. Krejci is the highest paid player on the team. Krejci also is being counted on to be a second line center. Krejci is paid to make his line mates better. He's made Lucic better. Iginla, Eriksson and Horton were already established NHL veterans before #46. He's been mediocre. Painful in terms of it sucks to watch, he used to be great. Comes down to personal expectations for players I guess, I also ended it with I still think he can do it, something relatively positive, instead of "we will be lucky to get 20 points out of him" nonsense, but like you said, opinions are whatever

 

[Sheppy]

Another rookie scoring their first NHL goal against the Bruins, lol.

 

[Chief Nine]

Folks, its October.

Remember last October?

No, didn't think you did.

9-7-4 with a goal diff of -5 in the month of October and everyone was resigned to getting a good draft pick.

Things did not come together until November and then again when the team got healthy in December.
Even in November, we were all sweating over not being in a playoff spot by Thanksgiving.

Then they tore up the league.

I understand there are some issues with the team, not gonna debate that. But this is an 80+ game sport, not football where every game is of vast importance because there they are only in the teens.
Take a breather and let the people who are paid to straighten the team out get the job done.

A lot of people here panic every time their teams loses. If your happiness is dependant on your sports teams wins streak then you need to take a hard, serious, look at your life. It's a game, entertainment.

Yep. It's the end of the world, total annihilation, anarchy in the streets. This team isn't perfect, but they are well ahead of most of the league, and they have options. As @AngryMilkcrates says, let the pros sort it out and relax. Every loss is the same, the usual suspects want to blow up the team, trade this guy, fire that guy...

Enjoy the games, it's entertainment and it's a long season. Relax

 

[BBB24]

Love Cassidy but he is making mistakes giving that pp time to Bjork and not getting McAvoy out there 5 on 3.Anyways he is at least learning who can do what.

McAvoy probably had his worse game of the year last night, except the third where I thought he picked it up when they took him away from Chara and reduced his ice time. He needs to stop reading his press clippings and HF on how good he is and focus on being a top tier dman, which he is not YET, but I believe he will get there.

 

[Dr Hook]

Don't get the Krejci hate on here, I thought he looked decent especially on the defensive side, he does a great job of being in the right spot in the D zone, some of the young kids should be paying attention. He looks lazy sometimes because he doesn't waste energy chasing the game and he is playing beside Debrusk who will make someone who focuses on position and change of pace look really slow since he is going full tilt all the time no matter what.

Maybe for some it is hate, but for many of us, it is just the reality of DK these days. What you are describing and what we are seeing most of the time from him is a 3C- responsible defensively, generally responsible with the puck, not enough offense to drive a second scoring line or speed to keep up with speedy scoring wingers. If you put David Backes at 2C it would probably be about the same. Krejci is a more skilled playmaker and less physical than Backes, but otherwise the game they are bringing right now is pretty similar. $13 million/year for two 3Cs. You can see why people might be bugged by that.

 

[KrejciMVP]

Maybe for some it is hate, but for many of us, it is just the reality of DK these days. What you are describing and what we are seeing most of the time from him is a 3C- responsible defensively, generally responsible with the puck, not enough offense to drive a second scoring line or speed to keep up with speedy scoring wingers. If you put David Backes at 2C it would probably be about the same. Krejci is a more skilled playmaker and less physical than Backes, but otherwise the game they are bringing right now is pretty similar. $13 million/year for two 3Cs. You can see why people might be bugged by that.

Compared to Backes, Krejci is Gretzky and Lemieux combined