GDT: Game 57: Avs @ Jets - 6PM - I Can't Watch, Is it Over Yet?

[CobraAcesS]

Nick Holden was much better defensively than people give him credit for. If we could get Nick Hold en 2.0 out of Graves I would be thrilled. He certainly skates better than Holden.

Only problem I have with the Holden comp is the difference in skating, Graves shot, and that Graves can actually make a tape to tape simple first pass while being pressured instead of icing it. He also has shown the ability to skate it out when pressured as well. The difference in their agility and decision making under pressure is staggering IMO.

That just seems like a lot of stuff to continue comparing the two lol.

 

[Pokecheque]

You... Holden is supremely underrated around here because of his over usage. He's actually a solid bottom pairing guy that has a capability to play more. Used that way, he's actually quite good.

And once again I'll politely disagree with this assertion. He's a solid...ish...6/7 guy with some severe defensive issues, and for a big guy with slick hands he sure has a hard time securing the puck. He's best used as a power play specialist and nothing more. He's parlayed one crazy-ass half-season where he went on an insane scoring tear into an NHL career.

 

[R2daV]

Just heard on local radio that Joe Morrow will be out for 2-3 weeks with a LBI sustained during that final minute "fight" with Calvert...Bravo.

 

[CobraAcesS]

And once again I'll politely disagree with this assertion. He's a solid...ish...6/7 guy with some severe defensive issues, and for a big guy with slick hands he sure has a hard time securing the puck. He's best used as a power play specialist and nothing more. He's parlayed one crazy-ass half-season where he went on an insane scoring tear into an NHL career.

Yeah I guess hes like Holden if you remove all of the infuriating shit Holden does.

 

[AvsFan29]

Doesn't sound good...

 

[avsfan09]

The PP is way too static. Teams have scouted it and have taken the cross ice pass away from both Nathan and Rants. They only use two plays now on that top unit. Play catch with Barrie until he shoots wide or the slot play to Compher which is going wide or into the goalies chest. I would love to see both Nathan and Mikko attack the box more especially Nathan coming from his off wing with the shot he possesses.

They need to get more shots in order to get the other team scrambling. Once they start scrambling their skill can take over.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

Doesn't sound good...

How does that not sound good...

 

[The Abusement Park]

Doesn't sound good...

Huh? He’s about to have his first full practice. That’s definitely good.

 

[avsfan09]

Nick Holden was much better defensively than people give him credit for. If we could get Nick Holden 2.0 out of Graves I would be thrilled. He certainly skates better than Holden.

It was mostly his idiotic icings and lack of composure that made me dislike him. When not super pressured he made good decisions but he was definitely given more responsibility than a player of his caliber should and his mistakes were magnified because of it

 

[Grackle Party]

edit: I dont know how to post a gif

 

[The Abusement Park]

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Same thing keeps happening to me.

 

[avsfan09]

edit: I dont know how to post a gif

Me either. Someone pls explain haha.

 

[AvsFan29]

Huh? He’s about to have his first full practice. That’s definitely good.

No, he's back practicing with the Avs trainers in a non-contact jersey.

Unless you think they are just going to put him straight into the Avs line-up, this is a step back.

 

[Pokecheque]

edit: I dont know how to post a gif

You don't copy the URL, you copy the image address:

 

[Goulet17]

How does that not sound good...

I am guessing that the poster is thinking that Timmins was going to start practicing with the Eagles non-contact and then progress to AHL games. By going back to the Avs for practices, it seems kind of circular and may suggest that he is on a slower timeline until he progresses to games.

I am not sure that I take the news that way. I am starting to think that the Avs may actually be planning to have a look at Timmins on the Avs this season when he is ready, as crazy at that might sound.

 

[CobraAcesS]

Me either. Someone pls explain haha.

Hit the little thing that looks like a picture just to the right of the emoji button. Paste in the link after you right click on the gif and hit copy image address. If it is from your pc or phone hit upload a file.

 

[AvsFan29]

How does that not sound good...

It's not good, because if he was close to playing, he would be with the eagles. This is a step back.

Unless they decide to just put him in the Avs line up...which is highly unlikely

 

[Pokecheque]

Nope this does not sound good about Timmins. Jesus H. Christ this is gonna be another f***ing Joey Hishon situation isn't it?

 

[Pacman33]

Im not sure how to take that news but cant see it as too bad. If there was much of a setback, they prob wouldnt have him out there period

 

[AvsFan29]

Nope this does not sound good about Timmins. Jesus H. Christ this is gonna be another ****ing Joey Hishon situation isn't it?

I really hope not.

 

[AvsFan29]

Im not sure how to take that news but cant see it as too bad. If there was much of a setback, they prob wouldnt have him out there period

He's been on the ice in a non-contact jersey for a while now

 

[Goulet17]

DELETE

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

It's not good, because if he was close to playing, he would be with the eagles. This is a step back.

Unless they decide to just put him in the Avs line up...which is highly unlikely

No. They sent him to the Eagles so he could continue getting ice time while the Avs were road tripping. Bednar even said this. Him doing a full practice is a huge step forward plain and simple. He has not done that yet.

 

[Bender]

I saw the same Mack...the difference is that he didn't deflate because they didn't lose the lead they had because of poor goaltending or dumb penalties or plays.

You are seeing and assuming way too much into the Bednar/Mack issue. There was never anything there at the level you imply. Mack had a heated moment and it was solved by the next day. Give it up already.

So you saw the same Mack? I guess that tells me a lot about how you see the game.

In the 13 games prior to and including the Calgary game :
13GP 6G 13A 19PTS and 72 shots on goal

In the 13 games following that game against Calgary :
13GP 3G 5A 8PTS and 36 shots on goal

But you saw the same player??? Those are just stats and they tell part of the story but not the whole story. Yesterday, for the first time since that incident I saw a player that was absolutely engaged and took control of the puck and was set on making something happen especially in the 1st period. I saw a player last night who actually had a discussion with his coach (rather than not even look at him when Bednar was speaking to him on the bench - (yeah THAT did happen and they showed it on TV and I wasn't the only one who noticed it).

But please do go on and keep telling me that I don't know what I'm talking about and instead of bringing anything worthwhile to the discussion...just keep saying that I'm wrong.

I guess Greg Sherman REALLY was the GM and he really DID make those trades.

I remember people telling me that I should give up on that too. Then the next thing we know, Greg Sherman is giving an interview to some no-name weirdo in the back of a truck.

 

[AvsFan29]

No. They sent him to the Eagles so he could continue getting ice time while the Avs were road tripping. Bednar even said this. Him doing a full practice is a huge step forward plain and simple. He has not done that yet.

Hopefully you're right