Post-Game Talk: GAME 56 - Marchand wins it in OT - B's finally beat Colorado in Boston

[CharasLazyWrister]

JFK in his last 7-8 games before his demotion looked like twice the player Frederic is at the NHL level right now.

But this management team values "heaviness" over talent so they made the switch. Now JFK is injured and Frederic belongs back in the AHL.

How does this management team value “heaviness” over talent?

I would agree with you in 2010 and with PC at the helm, but it’s pretty obvious they don’t put a stress on that old school Bruins heavy hitting of the past.

How many players on this current team seem heavy to you?

 

[22Brad Park]

I think it’s a stretch to say that you are “waiting patiently” based on your posts.

Lol yea well I am trying.Within 2 weeks good or bad will get the answer

 

[CharasLazyWrister]

I’m not sure what JDB is doing out there now.

I’ve been saying this for a lot of this year, but he seems to think the goal is to skate as fast as he can at all times. He’s not making smart hockey plays and is skating by plays that are there.

 

[BMC]

It certainly looks like McAvoy is out of the funk he's been in, perhaps he is finally 100% healthy

 

[CharasLazyWrister]

It certainly looks like McAvoy is out of the funk he's been in, perhaps he is finally 100% healthy

He did have a nice game today, but I think he’s got some time left to prove he’s out of his, what really is, season long funk.

 

[BruinDust]

How does this management team value “heaviness” over talent?

I would agree with you in 2010 and with PC at the helm, but it’s pretty obvious they don’t put a stress on that old school Bruins heavy hitting of the past.

How many players on this current team seem heavy to you?

That's far too long a post to make right now.

 

[CharasLazyWrister]

That's far too long a post to make right now.

I’m guessing your reasoning is something along the lines of frustration of not getting star players, so therefore the FO “doesn’t care about talent”.

Until you explain, I can only speculate. On the surface, I think you’re wrong, but maybe I’ll change my mind with your explanation. But given how this team drafts, and the current roster, I see no reason to believe that DS and co are going for heaviness over talent.

I questioned the Backes signing partly because it was completely off the beaten path of targeting pure talent almost exclusively.

All of this is completely separate from anyone’s opinion as to whether or not that talent, or the overall FO strategy, is working.

Edit: and also, you thought JFK looked good? I don’t think I’ve heard a single other poster on this board state that opinion. Guess we are all undervaluing talent.

 

[BMC]

He did have a nice game today, but I think he’s got some time left to prove he’s out of his, what really is, season long funk.

I think he has had post concussion issues tbh. This is the first game all season where he played like he did last season.

 

[CharasLazyWrister]

I think he has had post concussion issues tbh. This is the first game all season where he played like he did last season.

Definitely a real possibility.

I wouldn’t be opposed to him going back to the wrecking ball style that he was showing during the OTT playoff series a couple seasons back.

 

[Caper Bruins fan]

I would have had both goalies as stars and McAvoy.

Nice win but struggling to beat LA and Colorado is a bad sign.

I don’t know . That’s always been the Bruin way . It’s never easy with these guys . Leafs and Rangers coming on soon. .Go Rangers !

 

[Ladyfan]

Dad power strikes again!

Congrats to the Moores

Congrats !!!!

 

[Fenway]

 

[sarge88]

4 points in about 27 hours makes for a nice weekend,


Now, hopefully DS can get some help up front and they can head into the playoffs strong.

 

[BruinDust]

I’m guessing your reasoning is something along the lines of frustration of not getting star players, so therefore the FO “doesn’t care about talent”.

Until you explain, I can only speculate. On the surface, I think you’re wrong, but maybe I’ll change my mind with your explanation. But given how this team drafts, and the current roster, I see no reason to believe that DS and co are going for heaviness over talent.

I questioned the Backes signing partly because it was completely off the beaten path of targeting pure talent almost exclusively.

All of this is completely separate from anyone’s opinion as to whether or not that talent, or the overall FO strategy, is working.

My take has nothing to do with that, at all.

Go look at the list of players signed, claimed, and traded for by Sweeney as GM. And there is a definite trend towards "heaviness" and "grit" and "200 ft. games" and "blue-collar mentality" and "Bruins-type" players and all kinds of other foolishness that infects their attitude towards team-building.

 

[CharasLazyWrister]

My take has nothing to do with that, at all.

Go look at the list of players signed, claimed, and traded for by Sweeney as GM. And there is a definite trend towards "heaviness" and "grit" and "200 ft. games" and "blue-collar mentality" and "Bruins-type" players and all kinds of other foolishness that infects their attitude towards team-building.

The team is one of the smaller ones in the league by average height. Especially if you eliminate the outlier in Chara.

I do agree that the forward group is subpar in overall talent, but I completely disagree that it’s a result of the FO leaning on heaviness.

And really, you pushing the notion that JFK was looking good (or at least better than Frederic) indicates to me that you’ve got quite the agenda yourself. We must have been watching different games because it was pretty well a consensus around here that JFK wasn’t contributing in any positive way.

 

[BruinDust]

The team is one of the smaller ones in the league by average height. Especially if you eliminate the outlier in Chara.

I do agree that the forward group is subpar in overall talent, but I completely disagree that it’s a result of the FO leaning on heaviness.

And really, you pushing the notion that JFK was looking good (or at least better than Frederic) indicates to me that you’ve got quite the agenda yourself. We must have been watching different games because it was pretty well a consensus around here that JFK wasn’t contributing in any positive way.

Yeah those 4 points in his last 9 games and even his last two games made a play in each game that directly resulted in Bruins goals scored.

Has Trent Frederic even generated a scoring chance yet?

But he had a fight and rubbed out a couple guys with hits, so he gets to stick around. (and I actually really like Frederic).

I do have an agenda, and that's is this management team has no idea how to construct a forward group in the 2019 version of NHL hockey. And the game since the all-star break have been more than proof positive of that.

 

[CharasLazyWrister]

Yeah those 4 points in his last 9 games and even his last two games made a play in each game that directly resulted in Bruins goals scored.

Has Trent Frederic even generated a scoring chance yet?

But he had a fight and rubbed out a couple guys with hits, so he gets to stick around. (and I actually really like Frederic).

I do have an agenda, and that's is this management team has no idea how to construct a forward group in the 2019 version of NHL hockey. And the game since the all-star break have been more than proof positive of that.

I agree there are problems, but I hardly think it’s a result of management not liking talent and wanting “blue collar” players.

One of the first things Sweeney did was trade “the ultimate Bruin” out of town in Milan Lucic.

 

[GoBs]

Leafs on NBCSN

 

[smack66]

JFK looked better then frederic in my opinion

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

Yeah those 4 points in his last 9 games and even his last two games made a play in each game that directly resulted in Bruins goals scored.

Has Trent Frederic even generated a scoring chance yet?

But he had a fight and rubbed out a couple guys with hits, so he gets to stick around. (and I actually really like Frederic).

I do have an agenda, and that's is this management team has no idea how to construct a forward group in the 2019 version of NHL hockey. And the game since the all-star break have been more than proof positive of that.

I believe the answer is NO.

 

[BMC]

Leafs on NBCSN

Rags up 1-0

 

[Fenway]

 

[CharasLazyWrister]

JFK looked better then frederic in my opinion

I guess I stand corrected on this one.

 

[GoBs]

Rags up 1-0

Let’s go Rangers

 

[LouJersey]

The team is one of the smaller ones in the league by average height. Especially if you eliminate the outlier in Chara.

I do agree that the forward group is subpar in overall talent, but I completely disagree that it’s a result of the FO leaning on heaviness.

And really, you pushing the notion that JFK was looking good (or at least better than Frederic) indicates to me that you’ve got quite the agenda yourself. We must have been watching different games because it was pretty well a consensus around here that JFK wasn’t contributing in any positive way.

This brass is obsessed w heaviness it would seem up until this summer and I would argue they would take it all day if they could.

JFK was better than Frederic. Moore is better than Miller yet sits when all healthy. Backes has played himself out of the lineup, and I’m not convinced Heinen isn’t being showcased.