Half-Assed GDT: Game 4

[Blueston]

It doesn't make sense long term to have Allen blocking Husso if the franchise believes Husso's capable to shoulder some of the load from Binnington. They need to take the training wheels off him at some point.

Husso hasn’t exactly forced the issue.

 

[i aint Dunn yet]

the refs need to swallow their f***ing whistles ... lets do playoff hockey

 

[Blanick]

Are we sure we really want to deal Allen? He’s a darn good 1B. Good enough to push Binny and to step in when needed. Don’t want him as starter, but he is talented enough that you can ride him when he is on. No way I want to put that on Husso at this point.

Unfortunate circumstance to hopefully re-signing Pietrangelo. If anything though, maybe a strong playoff performance by him after a really good year might net us a better return than expected.

 

[Blueston]

True. I just don't see either Tarasenko or Steen being moved, especially Steen at this point. But his contract at least burns off after next season, then again so does Allen.

I love Steen but he is done.

 

[i aint Dunn yet]

Steen needs to retire. Hire him for front office.

i know but how many cronies do you need ?

 

[Blueston]

i know but how many cronies do you need ?

He can have Brodeurs old job. Or Hulls. I don’t care. I just want him off cap.

 

[WATTAGE4451]

Steen needs to retire. Hire him for front office.

It sounds cool to say but you cant force steen to walk away from his contract next season even if we want him to retire ourselves.

 

[mk80]

Unfortunate circumstance to hopefully re-signing Pietrangelo. If anything though, maybe a strong playoff performance by him after a really good year might net us a better return than expected.

His value is definitely ticking up right now

 

[Louie the Blue]

Husso is 25 and not exactly setting AHL on fire. I ain’t making plans around him.

Binnington was 25 and was bypassed by Husso, to the point they loaned him to the Bruins' AHL affiliate. He was comparable to Husso in AHL performance relative to work load, though Husso had 1 down season.

 

[TheDizee]

if petro is to be resigned, allen and either bozak or steen will HAVE to be moved. that is ofcourse assuming they want to resign dunn.

you could of course trade both steen and bozak instead of allen instead but that creates alot of depth issues.

i would love nothing more than to see allen carry us to a cup and increase his trade value

 

[i aint Dunn yet]

I love Steen but he is done.

he is done ... need to shed that shit

 

[Louie the Blue]

Husso hasn’t exactly forced the issue.

Binnington didn't force the issue last season, either. Chad Johnson being Chad Johnson, combined with the Blues bad start to the season, led to Binnington's promotion + taking the reigns from Allen.

 

[i aint Dunn yet]

Binnington didn't force the issue last season, either. Chad Johnson being Chad Johnson, combined with the Blues bad start to the season, led to Binnington's promotion + taking the reigns from Allen.

it was f***ing unreal how it unfolded

 

[Blueston]

It sounds cool to say but you cant force steen to walk away from his contract next season even if we want him to retire ourselves.

If he will waive NTC glad to trade him, but I doubt he wants to go anywhere. Heck, maybe he has developed equipment allergy. He has been great Blue for a long time. I expect he will work with us.

 

[i aint Dunn yet]

aight ........... Blues win ... game on ya cocky bastards

 

[Louie the Blue]

it was f***ing unreal how it unfolded

It's insane to think Binnington was that far down the organization depth chart at one point to where he is now.

It's also wild to think Armstrong pretty much chose Allen over Elliott, Halak, Bishop, Ryan Miller, and Binnington, too.

 

[Blueston]

Binnington didn't force the issue last season, either. Chad Johnson being Chad Johnson, combined with the Blues bad start to the season, led to Binnington's promotion + taking the reigns from Allen.

But that was oh crap we got nothing else to try. This is different. Have 2 good goalies.

 

[Blueston]

It's insane to think Binnington was that far down the organization depth chart at one point to where he is now.

It's also wild to think Armstrong pretty much chose Allen over Elliott, Halak, Bishop, Ryan Miller, and Binnington, too.

Well, Allen has been better this week than any of them.

 

[Blueston]

Binnington was 25 and was bypassed by Husso, to the point they loaned him to the Bruins' AHL affiliate. He was comparable to Husso in AHL performance relative to work load, though Husso had 1 down season.

Binnington certainly an outlier. But that season in Providence really turned him around.

 

[simon IC]

faulk is good on the pk and it makes no sense

kind of like how shattenkirk was actually good on the pk

I am still not convinced, but I will take it. I genuinely hope he can keep it up.

 

[Louie the Blue]

But that was oh crap we got nothing else to try. This is different. Have 2 good goalies.

For now. Allen likely will not be in St. Louis after next season one way or another. The only way he is back is if Binnington becomes a pumpkin.

And if Binnington did become a pumpkin, I'd still would want to move on from Allen. I think the Blues lack of a true #1 goalie hindered them from contending in the POs for at least 3-4 seasons (flip flopping between Halak and Elliott, trading for Miller by not having faith in Elliott, flip flopping from Elliott to Allen).

 

[TheDizee]

biggest problem with allen has always been mental. with no fans in attendance, he could really thrive in these playoffs.

i hope he wins a cup for us and thats a good send off.

 

[Blueston]

For now. Allen likely will not be in St. Louis after next season one way or another. The only way he is back is if Binnington becomes a pumpkin.

And if Binnington did become a pumpkin, I'd still would want to move on from Allen. I think the Blues lack of a true #1 goalie hindered them from contending in the POs for at least 3-4 seasons (flip flopping between Halak and Elliott, trading for Miller by not having faith in Elliott, flip flopping from Elliott to Allen).

I’m not saying extend him at current $. Just suggesting that I would rather keep him for next year over Bozo and Steen.

 

[Louie the Blue]

biggest problem with allen has always been mental. with no fans in attendance, he could really thrive in these playoffs.

i hope he wins a cup for us and thats a good send off.

I think a lot of flak that Allen gets is that Armstrong traded Bishop instead of him, and as a result, he has to deal with those expectations fairly or unfairly.

Bishop is clearly a better goalie, but Allen isn't a bad goalie. He's a good tandem goalie.

ETA: Armstrong was also in a position in which he had to pretty much make a decision between Bishop, Allen, Halak, and Elliott. Elliott was making pennies and playing his best season, Halak was still under contract for a few more season. Bishop was going to be lost in FA if Elliott or Halak wasn't moved and Allen needed playing time.

I’m not saying extend him at current $. Just suggesting that I would rather keep him for next year over Bozo and Steen.

I'd prefer keeping Bozak as he still has use and seems to have good chemistry with Thomas which appears to be helping his development.

 

[mk80]

Binnington didn't force the issue last season, either. Chad Johnson being Chad Johnson, combined with the Blues bad start to the season, led to Binnington's promotion + taking the reigns from Allen.

Damn I forgot we even had him....