Post-Game Talk: GAME 26 - YUCK!!!!!! Detroit 4 BRUINS 2 FINAL

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missingchicklet

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Nope because they know Tom Wilson will come out next shift and decapitate somebody
Not to mention Ovi himself is a hoss and can dish out some punishment. Hard to hurt Ovi, and if you do there will be consequences.

Watching the Caps/Ducks game. Ducks are one of the cheapest dirtiest teams in the NHL. Will be interesting to see if they try to pull anything. Wilson just scored a goal to put the Caps up 3-1 13 minutes into the game.
 
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This is one example. Fact of the matter is I have never seen the Bruins stars constantly targeted like they are this season and with no response its sickening


No response here with Lucic ON THE ICE.




Again, the toughest guy in the league is on the ice, possibly Chara too, Thornton on the bench, yet Oshie isn’t afraid to flatten Krejci.
 

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I hope everyone is content with being a competitive regular season team and a team that cannot go deep into the playoffs. This management team has a ceiling. It cannot do what's necessary to get the team to the next level. It's piss poor at addressing major team needs and signing big-contract players. It's great at stockpiling and drafting d-men. It's above average at making a couple good depth signings per season. The problem is that's not going to be enough to put a competitive Cup team on the ice. I know, I know...deals are hard to make. That may be true, but other teams are able to do it.

I spent the morning looking at the bottom 6 of the upper half of NHL teams. Holy crap do the Bs have some work to do in trying to match the upper echelon teams' bottom 6 players. I realize that many people on here, along with management, get attached to certain players because they work hard and make some good plays. Problem is that those types of players are a dime a dozen. There's a reason the Bs are able to sign so many of them. The Bs bottom 6 simply doesn't have the talent and ability to finish plays in the Ozone on par with most of the league's elite teams. It's a friggin joke to see so many redundant players in the Bs bottom 6. How many of those guys would be on the third line of the elite teams? Hell, how many would be on the fourth line of the elite teams? Not many. Most of them would be in the AHL or be sent packing. Good luck going deep into the playoffs with a pure trash third line and a fourth line full of little engines that could, but struggle to score at the pace of elite fourth lines.

Then throw in the absolute inability of management to get a scoring winger for the top 6. The Backes signing was awful from the start. The Nash deal was downright stupid -- I called that one from day one so I don't want to hear how it looked great on paper -- it didn't look good to people who had been paying attention to Nash. Signing broken down and injury-prone vets whose better days are behind them is a basic concept any GM should understand is not a good gamble. I always hear from the Bs Management apologists that DS and Co are trying. That may be true. I will grant that they are trying, but they are also failing. A bold move that may not be popular with fans is what needs to be done. The Bs have great goalies, excellent D depth, a superb first line, and that's where it ends. Krejci has raised his game this season and is an elite passer but is still a poor shooter who misses too many easy shots at his pay grade. Jake is awesome and will thrive for years to come. That other wing spot is STILL in need of a scorer. It wasn't taken care of over the summer. It's not being taken care of now. Lots of excuses, but no action. Excuses don't win Cups, period.

BRAVO!!:thumbu:
 

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I hope everyone is content with being a competitive regular season team and a team that cannot go deep into the playoffs. This management team has a ceiling. It cannot do what's necessary to get the team to the next level. It's piss poor at addressing major team needs and signing big-contract players. It's great at stockpiling and drafting d-men. It's above average at making a couple good depth signings per season. The problem is that's not going to be enough to put a competitive Cup team on the ice. I know, I know...deals are hard to make. That may be true, but other teams are able to do it.

I spent the morning looking at the bottom 6 of the upper half of NHL teams. Holy crap do the Bs have some work to do in trying to match the upper echelon teams' bottom 6 players. I realize that many people on here, along with management, get attached to certain players because they work hard and make some good plays. Problem is that those types of players are a dime a dozen. There's a reason the Bs are able to sign so many of them. The Bs bottom 6 simply doesn't have the talent and ability to finish plays in the Ozone on par with most of the league's elite teams. It's a friggin joke to see so many redundant players in the Bs bottom 6. How many of those guys would be on the third line of the elite teams? Hell, how many would be on the fourth line of the elite teams? Not many. Most of them would be in the AHL or be sent packing. Good luck going deep into the playoffs with a pure trash third line and a fourth line full of little engines that could, but struggle to score at the pace of elite fourth lines.

Then throw in the absolute inability of management to get a scoring winger for the top 6. The Backes signing was awful from the start. The Nash deal was downright stupid -- I called that one from day one so I don't want to hear how it looked great on paper -- it didn't look good to people who had been paying attention to Nash. Signing broken down and injury-prone vets whose better days are behind them is a basic concept any GM should understand is not a good gamble. I always hear from the Bs Management apologists that DS and Co are trying. That may be true. I will grant that they are trying, but they are also failing. A bold move that may not be popular with fans is what needs to be done. The Bs have great goalies, excellent D depth, a superb first line, and that's where it ends. Krejci has raised his game this season and is an elite passer but is still a poor shooter who misses too many easy shots at his pay grade. Jake is awesome and will thrive for years to come. That other wing spot is STILL in need of a scorer. It wasn't taken care of over the summer. It's not being taken care of now. Lots of excuses, but no action. Excuses don't win Cups, period.

BRAVO!!:thumbu:
 
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No response here with Lucic ON THE ICE.




Again, the toughest guy in the league is on the ice, possibly Chara too, Thornton on the bench, yet Oshie isn’t afraid to flatten Krejci.


Look, maybe its not going to prevent it entirely, but wouldn't you rather have the offender held accountable because clearly the league isn't going to protect any Bruin players. Just asking for some pushback.

 

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Look, maybe its not going to prevent it entirely, but wouldn't you rather have the offender held accountable because clearly the league isn't going to protect any Bruin players. Just asking for some pushback.


Yeah, I think they need size and toughness upfront. I thought Wagner would provide some of that but he’s been disappointing. I just think that saying it’s going to prevent cheap shots is wrong.

Loved the response from Cave last night, we need more players with that attitude.
 

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For the people bemoaning the B’s lack of response last night. Guess you missed it when Cave went after that puke Bertuzzi, who apparently had his gloves glued to his hands last night...well at least until there was a ref between him and another player.

Bruins are soft and it is easy to see.Teams do not fear playing them because they know there is no price to pay physically.
 
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Yeah, I think they need size and toughness upfront. I thought Wagner would provide some of that but he’s been disappointing. I just think that saying it’s going to prevent cheap shots is wrong.

Loved the response from Cave last night, we need more players with that attitude.

Yep I liked seeing Cave step up there, Nordstrom too stepping in there with a big guy when its not really his thing.
 

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Yep I liked seeing Cave step up there, Nordstrom too stepping in there with a big guy when its not really his thing.

The refs broke that one up with Nordy pretty fast- they knew what was likely to happen. Good on him for doing it, but he was in over his head :laugh:
 

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Oshie was taken out with like 1:17 left in the game. IF that were to have happened with a period or two left Morrissey would have to pay the price. I don't know when the Caps play the Jets again but I'll bet it's not for a while so Morrissey figured "what the heck" take him out and deal with the consequences down the road. I'm seriously wondering if Morrissey would've had the b*lls to do that with a period remaining. The thing is this: other teams are taking out Bruins like JDB, Krejci, Pasta and to some extent Marchand with no response on the other teams top players paying the price. Sure Bruins got hurt when Looch, McQuaid and Thornton played but back then the Bruins had the option of hitting the other teams top players so it was like the cold war "mutually assured destruction."

EDIT: Looks like the two teams play again on March 10th.
 
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Look, maybe its not going to prevent it entirely, but wouldn't you rather have the offender held accountable because clearly the league isn't going to protect any Bruin players. Just asking for some pushback.



What is the league supposed to do? The hits on Krejci were clean. The best thing that can happen to avoid those hits is to not give Krejci suicide passes and for him to have his head up cutting laterally in the neutral zone.

You can throw a tough guy in there if you want. It will just raise penalty minutes. The idea that having a guy to drop the gloves will “scare” the opposition in to not being physical is a myth as shown by countless examples from the past of tough players being on the ice and not making a difference when clean hits are thrown.

I’ve seen two very hard hits on DK the last two games. I’ve seen Pasta falling down a lot because he just so happens to not be the strongest skater. The answer to this is not to turn back the clock a couple decades and “toughen up”. It’s to be conscious of hits coming and throw a few while you’re at it. The third period against the Islanders is a great example of this.
 

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I hope everyone is content with being a competitive regular season team and a team that cannot go deep into the playoffs. This management team has a ceiling. It cannot do what's necessary to get the team to the next level. It's piss poor at addressing major team needs and signing big-contract players. It's great at stockpiling and drafting d-men. It's above average at making a couple good depth signings per season. The problem is that's not going to be enough to put a competitive Cup team on the ice. I know, I know...deals are hard to make. That may be true, but other teams are able to do it.

I spent the morning looking at the bottom 6 of the upper half of NHL teams. Holy crap do the Bs have some work to do in trying to match the upper echelon teams' bottom 6 players. I realize that many people on here, along with management, get attached to certain players because they work hard and make some good plays. Problem is that those types of players are a dime a dozen. There's a reason the Bs are able to sign so many of them. The Bs bottom 6 simply doesn't have the talent and ability to finish plays in the Ozone on par with most of the league's elite teams. It's a friggin joke to see so many redundant players in the Bs bottom 6. How many of those guys would be on the third line of the elite teams? Hell, how many would be on the fourth line of the elite teams? Not many. Most of them would be in the AHL or be sent packing. Good luck going deep into the playoffs with a pure trash third line and a fourth line full of little engines that could, but struggle to score at the pace of elite fourth lines.

Then throw in the absolute inability of management to get a scoring winger for the top 6. The Backes signing was awful from the start. The Nash deal was downright stupid -- I called that one from day one so I don't want to hear how it looked great on paper -- it didn't look good to people who had been paying attention to Nash. Signing broken down and injury-prone vets whose better days are behind them is a basic concept any GM should understand is not a good gamble. I always hear from the Bs Management apologists that DS and Co are trying. That may be true. I will grant that they are trying, but they are also failing. A bold move that may not be popular with fans is what needs to be done. The Bs have great goalies, excellent D depth, a superb first line, and that's where it ends. Krejci has raised his game this season and is an elite passer but is still a poor shooter who misses too many easy shots at his pay grade. Jake is awesome and will thrive for years to come. That other wing spot is STILL in need of a scorer. It wasn't taken care of over the summer. It's not being taken care of now. Lots of excuses, but no action. Excuses don't win Cups, period.

I agree and add as I've mentioned hated the backes signing and Nash acquisition from the start.
If we want to contend for a cup I suggest we make changes and fast.
We can also mention have the bruins been say more "competent" in their drafting i.e taking a guy like Barzal and Connor since they did have more attempts at it.... How much would this team look different right now?.
March Berg Pastr
Debrusk krejci rwinger
Connor Barzal rwinger
Now we can trade some of our D guys to get DK a right winger and look mighty good and the future as well
 

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What is the league supposed to do? The hits on Krejci were clean. The best thing that can happen to avoid those hits is to not give Krejci suicide passes and for him to have his head up cutting laterally in the neutral zone.

You can throw a tough guy in there if you want. It will just raise penalty minutes. The idea that having a guy to drop the gloves will “scare” the opposition in to not being physical is a myth as shown by countless examples from the past of tough players being on the ice and not making a difference when clean hits are thrown.

I’ve seen two very hard hits on DK the last two games. I’ve seen Pasta falling down a lot because he just so happens to not be the strongest skater. The answer to this is not to turn back the clock a couple decades and “toughen up”. It’s to be conscious of hits coming and throw a few while you’re at it. The third period against the Islanders is a great example of this.

This is all I'm asking for. They need to do it every night though and unfortunately those nights seem few and far between. I'm not asking for them to scare the other team I'm just asking for them to not lie down and take it I don't know where everyone is getting it twisted at
 

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For any and each poster out there that does not see, that our Bruins are to soft ,at present. My only response is to take OFF your black and gold glasses
 
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Oshie was taken out with like 1:17 left in the game. IF that were to have happened with a period or two left Morrissey would have to pay the price. I don't know when the Caps play the Jets again but I'll bet it's not for a while so Morrissey figured "what the heck" take him out and deal with the consequences down the road. I'm seriously wondering if Morrissey would've had the b*lls to do that with a period remaining. The thing is this: other teams are taking out Bruins like JDB, Krejci, Pasta and to some extent Marchand with no response on the other teams top players paying the price. Sure Bruins got hurt when Looch, McQuaid and Thornton played but back then the Bruins had the option of hitting the other teams top players so it was like the cold war "mutually assured destruction."

EDIT: Looks like the two teams play again on March 10th.

You are so off base, it’s not even funny (well it is actually).

Below is a an elbow to the head of Kuznetsov in that same game, only this one was in the 1st period WHILE TOM WILSON WAS ON THE ICE:



So, the Jets were so intimidated by the big, bad Caps that Tanev took Kuz out in the first period (while Wilson was on the ice) AND Morrissey took out Oshie in the 3rd.

Tanev got a 2 min penalty for a hit to the head. All the Caps players would have been able to see the blatant elbow and they did NOTHING to Tanev, zip, zero, zilch, nada. Even with all that beef on their roster.

Yet, you are sitting here trashing the B’s and making lame excuses why the Caps didn’t go after Morrissey.

Good call.

:laugh:
 
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