GDT: Game 15 | Detroit Red Wings @ Minnesota Wild | 6:00 PM EST | FS-D

[DRWCountryClub]

How Kindl isn't a regular on this team is confusing to me.

Got a 6'3, 26 year old defensmen(still young) who has been hitting, playing a bigger game, and has the skill there to be a puck mover, at least as a number five, probably number four guy. Hell, he's 8th on the team in hits and only has 9 games played, so he's playing physical.

I think you'd see a Tatar-like progression if he was actually given a legit shot rather than this in-and-out ******** we're seeing from Babcock.

It's clearly not working, and seems to mess with a guys confidence.

The Wings skilled prospects have not been given fair shots by the coaching staff, where plugs like Emmerton and Lashoff have?

Doesn't compute.

 

[DRWCountryClub]

Also, how the hell is this team going to score against Nashville/Rinne?

 

[mindfly]

Stop playing .500 hockey and TANK DAMMIT. The Future is on the line.

 

[Zetterberg4Captain]

I love how everyone here knows who should be playing over whom.

There are a whole lot of practices and conversations we're never a part of.

you're absolutely right, except that we all see the end results and the end results are all that matters.

actions and results are all fans care about, words or talks during practice that fail to result in success mean jack squat

you either win or you get criticized, end of story

 

[Henkka]

Stop playing .500 hockey and TANK DAMMIT. The Future is on the line.

We are six points away of the quaranteed 2nd pick (finishing dead last).

Only the lottery winner can get past the last team.

 

[DRWCountryClub]

I love how everyone here knows who should be playing over whom.

There are a whole lot of practices and conversations we're never a part of.

Remember when a lot of fans here could clearly see that Datsyuk and Zetterberg needed to be split up? And then Babcock eventually split them up games later and the team started winning?

You don't need to be an NHL coach to have a good idea.

 

[LastWordArmy]

How Kindl isn't a regular on this team is confusing to me.

Got a 6'3, 26 year old defensmen(still young) who has been hitting, playing a bigger game, and has the skill there to be a puck mover, at least as a number five, probably number four guy. Hell, he's 8th on the team in hits and only has 9 games played, so he's playing physical.

I think you'd see a Tatar-like progression if he was actually given a legit shot rather than this in-and-out ******** we're seeing from Babcock.

It's clearly not working, and seems to mess with a guys confidence.

The Wings skilled prospects have not been given fair shots by the coaching staff, where plugs like Emmerton and Lashoff have?

Doesn't compute.

Lots of the fans would disagree with you, but I completely am with you on Kindle. He has not shown to be anything but solid in my eyes.

 

[JPE123]

The Kindl move really confuses me about Babcock. He seems to hold different players to different standards. Kindl, IMHO, has been our 2nd best D man after Ericcson this year. Certainly better than Lashoff.

I also don't understand the unwillingness to give Nyquist a fair chance. We're not going anywhere now, mediocrity at best. Why not start looking towards the future? I agree we don't see practices and know what's involved in all the decisions but Babcock's willingness to accept such nightly substandard performances from Cleary and then benching Kindl make me question if he's lost his objectivity

 

[DRWCountryClub]

The Kindl move really confuses me about Babcock. He seems to hold different players to different standards. Kindl, IMHO, has been our 2nd best D man after Ericcson this year. Certainly better than Lashoff.

I also don't understand the unwillingness to give Nyquist a fair chance. We're not going anywhere now, mediocrity at best. Why not start looking towards the future? I agree we don't see practices and know what's involved in all the decisions but Babcock's willingness to accept such nightly substandard performances from Cleary and then benching Kindl make me question if he's lost his objectivity

Practice is practice.

Guys could look great there, but aren't performing in games. We all get to see the games and how poorly guys like Cleary are, yet they still get all the opportunity.

 

[DRWCountryClub]

Lots of the fans would disagree with you, but I completely am with you on Kindle. He has not shown to be anything but solid in my eyes.

Thanks, Bob's with us on this one too.

 

[JmanWingsFan]

Missed the game. What the heck happened?

 

[Heaton]

Missed the game. What the heck happened?

More defensive breakdowns and a lack of clutch scoring.

 

[Brick Top]

Missed the game. What the heck happened?

If you DVR'd the game, just watch through the first minute of the 2nd, then turn it off and tell yourself they kept that momentum for the remaining 39 mins. It'll be less frustrating for you that way

 

[joe89]

Don't hold your breath but:

Ansar Khan
@AnsarKhanMLive
Looks like Tatar replacing Cleary on 2nd line with Filppula and Samuelsson, at least in practice.

 

[Run the Jewels]

Missed the game. What the heck happened?

Homer retired but Kronner is doing a very good job replacing him.

 

[Run the Jewels]

Don't hold your breath but:

Ansar Khan
@AnsarKhanMLive
Looks like Tatar replacing Cleary on 2nd line with Filppula and Samuelsson, at least in practice.

Bbbbbut, Mike Babcock hates prospects.

 

[Laser Rayzor]

Don't hold your breath but:

Ansar Khan
@AnsarKhanMLive
Looks like Tatar replacing Cleary on 2nd line with Filppula and Samuelsson, at least in practice.

I thought I saw them on a line together near the end of the 3rd. Hopefully it sticks, Tatar was one of our best players the last couple games.

 

[Big Poppa Puck]

Don't hold your breath but:

Ansar Khan
@AnsarKhanMLive
Looks like Tatar replacing Cleary on 2nd line with Filppula and Samuelsson, at least in practice.

 

[A1Portable]

Lots of the fans would disagree with you, but I completely am with you on Kindle. He has not shown to be anything but solid in my eyes.

I tend to agree. Much to my surprise, Kindl has looked like a much improved defenseman this season.

 

[theanomaly]

Stop playing .500 hockey and TANK DAMMIT. The Future is on the line.

lol. thats the oil and pens way of doing things. we are better than to need 5-6 top 10 picks to be competitive.

 

[mindfly]

lol. thats the oil and pens way of doing things. we are better than to need 5-6 top 10 picks to be competitive.

I wish that was the truth

 

[redwings85]

Team Looked pretty good for the most part...

Really looked like Minnesota got a few lucky bounces that went their way.

Mrazek should have had that tying goal imo.

Wings are in a little funk, they look like they are completely gassed out, and the heart just isn't their right now.

Hopefully something triggers them soon. Detroit really needs to find a way to get healthy, and keep players off the IR.

 

[WingedWheel1987]

The way the Wings are losing reminds me of the Edmonton Oilers the past couple of years.

 

[guinness]

I know that people are upset, due to the Wings inconsistent play, but isn't it to be expected? We all knew the roster was going to be old and full of pluggers, save for Z and Dats, and that the defense, minus Lidstrom, was going to be a step backwards.

Only thing I can fault Babcock with, are his line pairings, and love of Cleary, but he's only working with the hand that Holland has dealt him. Special teams aren't good, especially the PP, but look at what's on the roster, bletch. Injuries aren't helping matters either.

The only surprising player, has been Brunner. Part of me, just wants this season to be a rebuilding one, and see if they can get a decent 1st rounder for a change (and not trade them away).

Another thing I thought of this morning, with all the money Ilitch has been pumping into the Tigers, perhaps there isn't as much to put into the Wings?

 

[Heaton]

I know that people are upset, due to the Wings inconsistent play, but isn't it to be expected? We all knew the roster was going to be old and full of pluggers, save for Z and Dats, and that the defense, minus Lidstrom, was going to be a step backwards.

Only thing I can fault Babcock with, are his line pairings, and love of Cleary, but he's only working with the hand that Holland has dealt him. Special teams aren't good, especially the PP, but look at what's on the roster, bletch. Injuries aren't helping matters either.

The only surprising player, has been Brunner. Part of me, just wants this season to be a rebuilding one, and see if they can get a decent 1st rounder for a change (and not trade them away).

Another thing I thought of this morning, with all the money Ilitch has been pumping into the Tigers, perhaps there isn't as much to put into the Wings?

Even if that were true (I don't think it is) Holland could've spent the money smarter. Unloading Cleary, Bertuzzi and Samuelsson could open up cap space for another impact forward and open up roster slots for young players like Tatar and Nyquist who could easily fill their void.