Waived: Gabriel Dumont | claimed by Ottawa | reclaimed by Tampa and sent to Syracuse

[Tampacuseforever]

He's signed for another year..? Don't think he ever stated "NHL or Europe" not that it matters he's on a one-way contract so he's getting paid well in A.

He stated he no longer wanted to play in the AHL. It was nhl or Europe and there may be a buyout. I am just guessing but I don’t think he’s getting a fair fair shake and I wonder when he finally say s enough. Guys get bought out and sign in Europe all the time, the most recent Rodin in Vancouver who was stuck in Utica.

 

[Sky04]

He stated he no longer wanted to play in the AHL. It was nhl or Europe and there may be a buyout. I am just guessing but I don’t think he’s getting a fair fair shake and I wonder when he finally say s enough. Guys get bought out and sign in Europe all the time, the most recent Rodin in Vancouver who was stuck in Utica.

Do you have a link? I don't see this mentioned anywhere nor recall him stating anything

 

[HoseEmDown]

It would make more sense for Conacher to wait till next year to seek a buyout. He's on a one way deal this year so is getting 650k to play in Syracuse, next year it's 200k so that would be the time to leave.

 

[Tampacuseforever]

Do you have a link? I don't see this mentioned anywhere nor recall him stating anything

Sorry I don’t but I am POSITIVE about it , not just creating something. There is no point in him being in the AHL anymore.

 

[Tampacuseforever]

It would make more sense for Conacher to wait till next year to seek a buyout. He's on a one way deal this year so is getting 650k to play in Syracuse, next year it's 200k so that would be the time to leave.

Yes I see your point but would they let him walk at that point after they paid him NHL bucks to play in the AHL this year ?

 

[HoseEmDown]

Yes I see your point but would they let him walk at that point after they paid him NHL bucks to play in the AHL this year ?

If he plays this year without incident and gives his all they'll settle with him to terminate the contract. If he starts cause problems this year they might make a bigger deal out of it. By giving him the one year deal this year I expected them to assume he was possibly leaving next year.

 

[Stormbreaker]

He's back. No word on where he's been assigned to. He could be placed in Syracuse without a hitch.

 

[Bolt32]

He's back. No word on where he's been assigned to. He could be placed in Syracuse without a hitch.

There is our deadline move.

 

[JoVel]

There is our deadline move.

Makes us the pretty clear Cup favorite.

 

[Todd1a]

There is our deadline move.

Yes yzerman has loaded up we are ready look if we trade sustr for a 7th round pick in 2018 we win the cup hands down

 

[AndreRoy]

Yes yzerman has loaded up we are ready look if we trade sustr for a 7th round pick in 2018 we win the cup hands down

Addition by subtraction, prevents Cooper from playing him...I think that actually does increase our cup chances.

 

[Bolt32]

Addition by subtraction, prevents Cooper from playing him...I think that actually does increase our cup chances.

I think so too....I don't know whether to cry or laugh.

 

[HoseEmDown]

He's back. No word on where he's been assigned to. He could be placed in Syracuse without a hitch.

No he can't. He was with Ottawa for over 30 days so we lost the right to send him back down to Syracuse right away. He's going to have to be on the main roster. I suspect once Palat gets cleared Erne goes back down, Dumont is a warm body for the pressbox. We wanted him back for next year because he's signed and most likely Condra and Bournival are gone from Syracuse so he's the main vet down there.

 

[DeeVeeUss]

No he can't. He was with Ottawa for over 30 days so we lost the right to send him back down to Syracuse right away. He's going to have to be on the main roster. I suspect once Palat gets cleared Erne goes back down, Dumont is a warm body for the pressbox. We wanted him back for next year because he's signed and most likely Condra and Bournival are gone from Syracuse so he's the main vet down there.

Several sources confirming he's been assigned to 'Cuse

 

[HoseEmDown]

Several sources confirming he's been assigned to 'Cuse

But that's not how waivers work. After a player hits 10 games or 30 days it resets and it's like they've never been on waivers before and everyone has to keep them on the main roster if claiming them. Unless there's something I'm missing I don't see how he can go right down?

 

[LightningStrikes]

 

[mouser]

But that's not how waivers work. After a player hits 10 games or 30 days it resets and it's like they've never been on waivers before and everyone has to keep them on the main roster if claiming them. Unless there's something I'm missing I don't see how he can go right down?

If a team
- loses a player on waivers during the season,
- then later reclaims that player on waivers during the same season,
- and is the only team to submit a waiver claim.

Then that team can assign the player to the AHL without going through waivers again. It's not unusual to see this happen a few times each season.

 

[Tampacuseforever]

But that's not how waivers work. After a player hits 10 games or 30 days it resets and it's like they've never been on waivers before and everyone has to keep them on the main roster if claiming them. Unless there's something I'm missing I don't see how he can go right down?

Tampa was his original team so they are the only team that has the ability to send him down without being put on waivers again.

 

[LightningStrikes]

 

[HoseEmDown]

That makes no sense as he didn't clear waivers, we put a claim in. It doesn't matter we wanted him in Syracuse where he is, we would've waived him later and he probably clears so we get him down earlier.

 

[mouser]

That makes no sense as he didn't clear waivers, we put a claim in. It doesn't matter we wanted him in Syracuse where he is, we would've waived him later and he probably clears so we get him down earlier.

The relevant info is in section 13.22 of the CBA if you want to take a look.

13.22 When a Club claims a Player on Regular or Unconditional Waivers, and, subsequently,
in the same season it requests Waivers on the same Player and the original owning Club is the
successful and only Club making a Waiver claim, then the original owning Club shall be entitled
to Loan such Player to a club in another league within thirty days without further Waivers being
asked; provided that such Player has not participated in ten or more NHL Games (cumulative)
and remained on an NHL roster more than thirty days (cumulative) following such successful
claim.

 

[HoseEmDown]

The relevant info is in section 13.22 of the CBA if you want to take a look.

13.22 When a Club claims a Player on Regular or Unconditional Waivers, and, subsequently,
in the same season it requests Waivers on the same Player and the original owning Club is the
successful and only Club making a Waiver claim, then the original owning Club shall be entitled
to Loan such Player to a club in another league within thirty days without further Waivers being
asked; provided that such Player has not participated in ten or more NHL Games (cumulative)
and remained on an NHL roster more than thirty days (cumulative) following such successful
claim.

It's that bottom part that has me super confused, the way I read it he has been on Ottawa more than 30 days and 10 games so he shouldn't be able to be loaned to Syracuse. Thanks for posting by the way, I'll just be happy he's down there now.

 

[mouser]

It's that bottom part that has me super confused, the way I read it he has been on Ottawa more than 30 days and 10 games so he shouldn't be able to be loaned to Syracuse. Thanks for posting by the way, I'll just be happy he's down there now.

The bottom part refers to Tampa Bay claiming him, not Ottawa's original claim. So Tampa didn't have to send him down immediately--they could have sent him down later without waivers so long as the 30/10 threshold wasn't crossed yet.