GDT: G48 - STL @ MIN - 6PM Central - The Home Stretch

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  1. TaLoN Red 5 standing by

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    1pt back of 2nd, 5pts back of 1st. How is that a virtual lock?
     
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    A "loss after 3 days off" usually means that the 3 days off has/had a part to play in the loss.

    If he say that going into the game, that's fine, but the way that the game played out would fly in the face of the 3 days off having any effect.
     
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    The two teams ahead of us are good, and we've stunk against the Blues this year, who we play a lot down the stretch.
     
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    He said he saw it because of 3 days off. This was anything but because of 3 days off.
     
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    If we clean up our game... play like we did the 1st and 2nd periods? I like our chances.

    We also have 2 games left head to head with Vegas... who we play well against.
     
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    They went out of gas in the 3rd, result of lying on the couch for 3 days? No practice?
     
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    Actually it was Dumba’s penalty early in the third that gave the Blues life but let’s ignore that

    He played a fantastic game!
     
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    Meh, I didn't see a tired skating team myself, I just saw a sloppy one.
     
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    Pretty much from the 1st period. The way at times st Louis blew by wild, & after st Louis scored to make it 2-1then wild scored to make it 3-1, after that, & before that, you saw the lost , & worrying coming

    Wild were letting up on plays
    They easily gave up 2 power play goals than all year

    Then going back to 1st period with Talbot, I know people will call me out for this, Talbot played like trash all game, & wild players go the way Goalie goes

    This wasn't the same wild team. it was like the heart attack from the past. You scream at the TV, & be like what are you doing? Wake up. I was saying this during 1st, & 2nd period.

    If you look back there were numerous moments where you can look at it, & say wake the heck up
     
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    So you run out of gas after days off, and you run out of gas on the 2nd of back-to-backs. I have my doubts.
     
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    Agreed with you. If you look back during the 1st period, there were moments where it's like wake the heck up
     
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    They played very well in the 1st and dominated the 2nd.i saw a completely different first two periods than you... but you're welcome to you're opinion. I just disagree.
     
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    True enough, that changed the momentum for sure.
     
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    I agree we can disagree. I just feel like there's a difference between playing well all period, & having gaffs. There were numerous moments where I literally said to myself, you guys deserve this lost
     
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    That's why I said they played well in the 1st didn't dominate like they did in the 2nd.
    They were pretty on their game. Not lacking focus.
     
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    St. Louis won most the battles in the 3rd. were more physical, and our gaffes fueled the fire. Talbot wasn’t good tonight.

    Ek says “he’s good”
     
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    His controller disconnected on the last goal too. Sat there watching with 23 seconds left about 5-10 feet away
     
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    That's right moose, can't relax just because we clinched

     
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    Are you seriously trying to blame the last goal on someone not named Brodin?
     
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    Dumba's guy was Kyrou and he was back to cut off the passing option. Brodin's guy was the one that hackie-sacked the puck past him and then Talbot.

    Like I get that Dumba didn't have a sterling night, especially in the 3rd when the rest of the team was playing so well. But the degree to which he's become a nightly case study in confirmation bias is hilarious.
     
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    Can I ask you a genuine question?

    Doesn't dumba constantly reckless turnovers make you want him off the team?

    He can be so so good then make this baffling reckless plays, lazy / soft plays, & turnovers prone that you ask yourself if he's worth keeping around.

    I like him the person on, & off the ice

    But man , during games his gaffs are like mind blowing. Like how, & why does he keeps doing this?
     
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    That's complete hyperbole.
     
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    Confirmation bias and hyperbole. My head is spinning.
     
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    You are right he doesn't think. When he does think its about his offense and not his defense. The guy won't get off the ice even we he has passed his shift limit if he thinks he can contribute a offensive play. He has no hockey sense and even when he has a good part of a game he comes back with a bonehead penalty that costs a goal and what was that backhand pass giveaway in his own end? That gets most players sent to the pine has that one also cost the game or a point or two. Brodin his partner has some same issues to. Coach should sit them both before the playoffs just to make a statement.
     
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    He doesn't turn it over as often as people seem to think.

    The giveaway and takeaway stats are rightfully considered to be pretty awful, but as long as you assume that they're equally awful for all players over time you can at least draw some broad comparisons. Here are the giveaways/60 numbers for our main 6 defensemen this year:

    Spurgeon: 0.55
    Suter: 0.89
    Brodin: 1.24
    Dumba: 1.29
    Soucy: 1.46
    Cole: 1.56

    So unless there's some reason that they count Brodin's giveaways more than Dumba's, they're about even. Would you guess it from the discussion on here?

    How about penalties/60?

    Spurgeon: 0.24
    Suter: 0.3
    Brodin: 0.36
    Dumba: 0.57
    Cole: 1.17
    Soucy: 1.25

    So a little higher than Dumba, but he takes about half as many per minute as his heir apparent, Carson Soucy. Again, would you guess it from the discussion here?

    At this point it's whatever. We've got about 8 more regular season games and then however many playoff games with him on the team. At that point we can focus on flipping out over Fiala's turnovers.
     
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