Confirmed with Link: (G)Sergei Bobrovsky 7yr @ 10 mil

[CHGoalie27]

We're in for a show, you think what he did before was amazing? Wait til he does it behind the 3 top paid men we got...

 

[Beezer]

Beezer had the best mask idea hands down.

Thanks.

 

[Ghoste]

-ghoste

 

[FinlandPanther]

-ghoste

They’re gonna be best friends. I’m not crying you are.

 

[IceManCat]

Beezer’s mask was iconic actually if you think about it a lot of the 90’s goalies had iconic masks. Brodeur, Potvin, Roy, Richter, Belfour and Beezer all fantastic. Now a days none of the goalies have anything interesting.

 

[CHGoalie27]

Beezer’s mask was iconic actually if you think about it a lot of the 90’s goalies had iconic masks. Brodeur, Potvin, Roy, Richter, Belfour and Beezer all fantastic. Now a days none of the goalies have anything interesting.

They have plenty interesting, just nothing memorable or iconic.

 

[PSLguy]

 

[ucanthanzalthetruth]

Panel of coaches and gms ranked the 31 starters for this year. Bob is 3.

1. Vasilevski
2. Price
3. Bobrovski
4. Gibson
5. Rask
6. Bishop
7. Rinne
8. Fleury
9. Holtby
10. Andersen
11. Murray
12. Hellebyuck
13. Binnington
14. Lundqvist
15. Dubnyk
16. Quick
17. Varlamov
18. Raanta
19. Hart
20. Grubauer
21. Crawford
22. Markstrom
23. Jones
24. Howard
25. Rittich
26. Mrazek
27. Schneider
28. Anderson
29. Korpisalo
30. Hutton
31. Koskinen

 

[drktmplr12]

Panel of coaches and gms ranked the 31 starters for this year. Bob is 3.
....

switch price and gibson

 

[zeroG]

https://www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id/27712918/goalie-tandem-rankings-all-31-nhl-teams-2019-20

Haven't seen this posted anywhere or seen a critique expressed quite this manner yet. Thought it might be interesting fodder while waiting for the opener.

I don't know who this writer is and I haven't read the entire set of rankings carefully but what I did read didn't seem totally outlandish.

I was one of the people in the "D is the biggest issue" camp so this resonates with me. I'm not sure we had another palatable option with Lou retiring but it's interesting that the author notes reimer may revive his career playing behind a team with better structure in carolina. (note - i'm not nec. arguing in favor of going into 2019 with reims and monty...).

The Panthers were an absolute abomination defensively last season. They were arguably the most hopeless team this side of Chicago in that regard, so it's not surprising that they completely overreacted and zigged when the rest of the league is zagging. During a time when teams have realized that the volatility and unpredictability of the goalie position makes investing too heavily in it a risky proposition, the Panthers went all-in this summer. They drafted a goalie in the lottery for the first time since 2010 (Spencer Knight, who will play for Boston College this season), and then spent $70 million on Sergei Bobrovsky in free agency.

While there's no question that it was a crazy contract that will more than likely wind up coming back to haunt them at some point down the road, there's also no doubt that Bobrovsky will help fix a lot of their woes in the short term. They were 30th in both 5-on-5 and all-situations save percentage, and that'll rise by a fair margin. Even if Bobrovsky's overall numbers were down last season, the final stretch and postseason showed that he still has it. Just how much of a difference he'll be able to make is the question, especially if the team continues its sloppy ways in front of him.

 

[Prominence Problem]

https://www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id/27712918/goalie-tandem-rankings-all-31-nhl-teams-2019-20

Haven't seen this posted anywhere or seen a critique expressed quite this manner yet. Thought it might be interesting fodder while waiting for the opener.

I don't know who this writer is and I haven't read the entire set of rankings carefully but what I did read didn't seem totally outlandish.

I was one of the people in the "D is the biggest issue" camp so this resonates with me. I'm not sure we had another palatable option with Lou retiring but it's interesting that the author notes reimer may revive his career playing behind a team with better structure in carolina. (note - i'm not nec. arguing in favor of going into 2019 with reims and monty...).

As soon as I saw the link, it lost all credibility for Hocking knowledge in my mind. Take nothing ESPN says about hockey to heart. They know squat.

 

[zeroG]

As soon as I saw the link, it lost all credibility for Hocking knowledge in my mind. Take nothing ESPN says about hockey to heart. They know squat.

parden me if I choose to actually read and assess each piece. rather facile response.

very few people in the press can be really take seriously. I don't follow much in the press, but rather try catch the ex-players on NHLN, which is where I think you can find better insight.

anyway, I know a little about hockey, I read the piece, there are some reasonable points.

 

[pantherbot]

https://www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id/27712918/goalie-tandem-rankings-all-31-nhl-teams-2019-20

Haven't seen this posted anywhere or seen a critique expressed quite this manner yet. Thought it might be interesting fodder while waiting for the opener.

I don't know who this writer is and I haven't read the entire set of rankings carefully but what I did read didn't seem totally outlandish.

I was one of the people in the "D is the biggest issue" camp so this resonates with me. I'm not sure we had another palatable option with Lou retiring but it's interesting that the author notes reimer may revive his career playing behind a team with better structure in carolina. (note - i'm not nec. arguing in favor of going into 2019 with reims and monty...).

I don't think we over paid on bob. The guy is a proven all star and has performed really well aside from the mess that was all of CBJ early last year and the one year he got hurt. His cap hit as % of cap is comparable to what lundqvist and price signed for in a year when the cap barely moved. He's not even that old... I was more supportive of signing a 'cheaper' option at first, but I think bob is worth it, especially given that it will be hard to upgrade our defense.

I think drafting Knight was smart. When 'everyone' thinks drafting a goalie in the first round is wrong, then there is likely a market inefficiency. Players need to be judged on a case by case basis, can't just apply blanket statements and averages.

Just like how teams didn't want to draft small guys or Russian guys without even thinking about the specific situation, and Tampa took advantage of that. Makes me so annoyed when so called experts take the easy way out.

 

[BabyBennettov]

I don't think we over paid on bob. The guy is a proven all star and has performed really well aside from the mess that was all of CBJ early last year and the one year he got hurt. His cap hit as % of cap is comparable to what lundqvist and price signed for in a year when the cap barely moved. He's not even that old... I was more supportive of signing a 'cheaper' option at first, but I think bob is worth it, especially given that it will be hard to upgrade our defense.

I think drafting Knight was smart. When 'everyone' thinks drafting a goalie in the first round is wrong, then there is likely a market inefficiency. Players need to be judged on a case by case basis, can't just apply blanket statements and averages.

Just like how teams didn't want to draft small guys or Russian guys without even thinking about the specific situation, and Tampa took advantage of that. Makes me so annoyed when so called experts take the easy way out.

My problem is... I really love Askarov...

I want to be sold on Spencer, and we may never have been in a position to draft Yaroslav... But man is he gonna be that kind of stud !

And I think Knight suffers from that comparison...

 

[KW]

https://www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id/27712918/goalie-tandem-rankings-all-31-nhl-teams-2019-20

Haven't seen this posted anywhere or seen a critique expressed quite this manner yet. Thought it might be interesting fodder while waiting for the opener.

I don't know who this writer is and I haven't read the entire set of rankings carefully but what I did read didn't seem totally outlandish.

I was one of the people in the "D is the biggest issue" camp so this resonates with me. I'm not sure we had another palatable option with Lou retiring but it's interesting that the author notes reimer may revive his career playing behind a team with better structure in carolina. (note - i'm not nec. arguing in favor of going into 2019 with reims and monty...).

I agree that the article makes some good points. Of course, we’ve spent the last year over here fighting each other first about who was more at fault, goalies or defense, and then about what exact percentage blame belonged to each.

It has been a fierce fight! Each side believes they won the argument! The only thing I know almost for sure is that the winner of that particular argument won’t ever be crowned.

I think last season the goalies made the defense look worse than they really were and the defense made the goalies look worse than they really were. I think the idea is that Bob is going to be the biggest reason that spiral stops now.

 

[violaswallet]

My problem is... I really love Askarov...

I want to be sold on Spencer, and we may never have been in a position to draft Yaroslav... But man is he gonna be that kind of stud !

And I think Knight suffers from that comparison...

Who would not be available where we hopefully are picking next year

This was the year to be a bit bold and take a goalie. In our position of needs, there was no one available. Cauflield is great, but we already have 3 (potentially 4 if you count Noel) top notch wing prospects.

 

[pantherbot]

My problem is... I really love Askarov...

I want to be sold on Spencer, and we may never have been in a position to draft Yaroslav... But man is he gonna be that kind of stud !

And I think Knight suffers from that comparison...

Yeah of course any team would love to draft Askarov, but I'm betting we won't be picking top 10 next year...hoping....

Knight is possibly the best goalie prospect ever from the US. I'd say that's good enough to gamble on.

 

[BabyBennettov]

Yeah of course any team would love to draft Askarov, but I'm betting we won't be picking top 10 next year...hoping....

Knight is possibly the best goalie prospect ever from the US. I'd say that's good enough to gamble on.

Exactly what I think !

But I've been drinking Askarov flavored Kool-Aid for more than two years, so I can't get over it lol...

Hope Knight will make me a believer !

 

[JP Mick]

https://www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id/27712918/goalie-tandem-rankings-all-31-nhl-teams-2019-20

I was one of the people in the "D is the biggest issue" camp so this resonates with me. I'm not sure we had another palatable option with Lou retiring but it's interesting that the author notes reimer may revive his career playing behind a team with better structure in carolina. (note - i'm not nec. arguing in favor of going into 2019 with reims and monty...).

Thank god we got one of the top goalies in the league then. You can see the confidence it gives the other guys on the ice and in the locker room in interviews. It's huge.

 

[Beezeral]

 

[zeroG]

Thank god we got one of the top goalies in the league then. You can see the confidence it gives the other guys on the ice and in the locker room in interviews. It's huge.

i'm pretty happy but we got bob and sure, you gotta pay for one of the top guys. however...

I agree that the article makes some good points. Of course, we’ve spent the last year over here fighting each other first about who was more at fault, goalies or defense, and then about what exact percentage blame belonged to each.

It has been a fierce fight! Each side believes they won the argument! The only thing I know almost for sure is that the winner of that particular argument won’t ever be crowned.

I think last season the goalies made the defense look worse than they really were and the defense made the goalies look worse than they really were. I think the idea is that Bob is going to be the biggest reason that spiral stops now.

one game in, and you can see this is going to be a process - these guys do not take care of the puck. Q said it after the game.

i don't expect to change bad habits overnight but you can see that even as structure improves as we get into the season, the muscle memory around puck management needs a ton of work.

 

[ThreeOfAPerfectPair]

Is Bob playing as poorly as his numbers suggest?

 

[FinlandPanther]

Is Bob playing as poorly as his numbers suggest?

Nope. Team sure is though.

 

[StrangeVision]

Is Bob playing as poorly as his numbers suggest?

He's been great.

 

[PSLguy]

Nope. Team sure is though.

He's been great.

Sorry but I have to disagree. He has shown flashes of greatness but overall I still worry on almost every why on goal.

Yes, he has made some unbelievable glove saves and
maybe I'm still feeling the effects of last season but I have not been overly impressed.

Hoping it's just a slow start and I am proven wrong.