Does that invalidate the stat, or simply suggest we're a tighter road team than a home team?
It does the bolded, the discrepancy is ridiculous.
edit: Hurt provided the stats
Does that invalidate the stat, or simply suggest we're a tighter road team than a home team?
Correlation is not a cause. My point is that we may very well be a better road team than a home one. It's definitely been the case in previous seasons.
Correlation is not a cause. My point is that we may very well be a better road team than a home one. It's definitely been the case in previous seasons.
Unless you personally know or have investigated the Giveaway counter person at the ACC to prove that his giveaway numbers are incorrect, I'm relying on the stats.
Your point gets thrown out because we were marginally better by 1 point on road than home.
Just for fun what is the takeaway ratio home vs away?
Correlation is not a cause. My point is that we may very well be a better road team than a home one. It's definitely been the case in previous seasons.
Home takeaways: 197
Away takeaways: 132
Not as extreme but yet again, quite a huge disparity.
Sure we can be a better road team but the difference isn't 200 more giveaways at home.
ACC numbers guy isn't great...or doesn't know what a giveaway is.
Wonder if these guys work for the NHL or the Leafs?
You would think the NHL would hire competent people to count these stats...giveaways, hits, blocked shots, takeaways vary so much from building to building...they are almost pointless to rank.
Based on the stats, he may evaluate slightly higher.
Conversely (and hilariously) the away stat guy may just be paying more attention to the home team. But we don't want to think of that, either, just like we don't seem to want to accept that we're wretchedly horrible at giving the puck away this year.
Based on the stats, he may evaluate slightly higher.
Conversely (and hilariously) the away stat guy may just be paying more attention to the home team. But we don't want to think of that, either, just like we don't seem to want to accept that we're wretchedly horrible at giving the puck away this year.
Based on the stats, he may evaluate slightly higher.
Conversely (and hilariously) the away stat guy may just be paying more attention to the home team. But we don't want to think of that, either, just like we don't seem to want to accept that we're wretchedly horrible at giving the puck away this year.
I hope you understand that you are accusing stats guy of all other 29 arenas of "paying more attention to the home team".
I call Leafs as Toronto Turnovers. We are probably top 10 in giveaways. And stats guy at ACC doesn't evaluate it slightly higher, but significantly higher. Doesn't help that Leafs have played 1 more game at home than away.
Our D isn't THAT bad that we would have 5 of 6 Dmen top 10 in giveaway. Any other stats guy and I guarantee the stats change significantly. (odds in my favor 29/1)
Correlation is not a cause. My point is that we may very well be a better road team than a home one. It's definitely been the case in previous seasons.
Correlation is not a cause. My point is that we may very well be a better road team than a home one. It's definitely been the case in previous seasons.
I'm accusing no one of anything, friend. I'm simply calling out out atrocious our blue line has been this year. We give the puck away. Lots.
I'll concede it looks as if the ACC stats guy is very liberal with the application, but we're still coughing that biscuit up way, way too much.
I'm accusing no one of anything, friend. I'm simply calling out out atrocious our blue line has been this year. We give the puck away. Lots.
I'll concede it looks as if the ACC stats guy is very liberal with the application, but we're still coughing that biscuit up way, way too much.
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I'm accusing no one of anything, friend. I'm simply calling out out atrocious our blue line has been this year. We give the puck away. Lots.
I'll concede it looks as if the ACC stats guy is very liberal with the application, but we're still coughing that biscuit up way, way too much.
These aint fun facts.
These could be called depressing facts.
My thoughts are the team doesn't care about the puck. Passes 5 feet away from the blade, Kessel pointlessly chipping the puck off the boards and to the other teams defenders with no center support.
Let me say something about advanced stats that applies here. Justin Williams, an advanced stat "superstar" does something I never see our team do. If the kings are changing, he holds onto the puck and circles back. How many times did we dump with no chase and give them an easy entry back into our zone? I know it's the "safe" play, but if you're just dumping the puck and going for a change that means the fresh legs will 90% have to start their shift in their own zone, and a cycle of dump and change begins.
Just watch them and how the handle the puck. The team has no value for the puck. Back on the Kings, watching them against the Preds (2 days ago) and everyone just WANTED that puck. Our team is happy to have the puck, but they don't WANT it.