Free Agents and Trade Thread- Part VIII - Calm Before the Storm

[BertCorbeau]

Off-season madness pending.

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[Tony Romo]

Responding to @dubplatepressure maybe trade for rights or Dubas hears through the grapevine Alex P is coming? only thing i can think of.

 

[stickty111]

@SeaOfBlue
Sorry I should have been more clear. The article was him ranking the Leafs assets and chances they are dealt. He has Johnsson as a 65% of being dealt but didn't post any rumor about him. I only posted the players which had some rumor to them in the article.

 

[stickty111]

Responding to @dubplatepressure maybe trade for rights or Dubas hears through the grapevine Alex P is coming? only thing i can think of.

Thinking about it, I find it strange as well.
Also it sure appears Dubas will look into Markstorm.

 

[JEI]

Just reading through Athletic.

I think moving Engvall would be a minor-mistake. I get the contract point of view Mirtle's been pushing, but Engvall's been a slow rolling guy at every level. I just think he needs more NHL seasoning to grow into his role. I'd probably keep Gautheir around too if he comes cheap (which he should).

Nick Jensen could be a good add on cheap if Washington's looking to shed salary. He's strong defensively. Moderate salary. Not solving your top-four issues though.

 

[BertCorbeau]

Just reading through Athletic.

I think moving Engvall would be a minor-mistake. I get the contract point of view Mirtle's been pushing, but Engvall's been a slow rolling guy at every level. I just think he needs more NHL seasoning to grow into his role. I'd probably keep Gautheir around too if he comes cheap (which he should).

Nick Jensen could be a good add on cheap if Washington's looking to shed salary. He's strong defensively. Moderate salary. Not solving your top-four issues though.

Would add some good depth though. I'd be all over that.

 

[SeaOfBlue]

Would add some good depth though. I'd be all over that.

Problem is that he makes 2.5 mill and I think that is a little bit much for what Jensen brings.

 

[aingefan]

Would add some good depth though. I'd be all over that.

Interesting name.
Can he be steady enough to hang back and cover for Mo?

 

[aingefan]

Actually, I don’t think Mo has been mentioned as a liquidation option to gather assets and make a run at Pie.
Just thinking out loud given the paucity of RD compared to LD.
I’d think he’d have insane value given his contract, and there’s always better left side options.
Muzzin, Dermott, Lehtonen still on the left; Pie and Holl on the right.
Increased secondary FA or trade options, big haul on Mo.

 

[Kiwi]

Would add some good depth though. I'd be all over that.

They would have to eat 50% of his contract to make that worthwhile imo
He costs way to much to play on our bottom pair or provide depth currently imo

 

[Mickey Marner]

I'd rather pay no assets and sign Gudas.

 

[Dreakmur]

Nick Jensen could be a good add on cheap if Washington's looking to shed salary. He's strong defensively. Moderate salary. Not solving your top-four issues though.

He probably pushes Holl to the 3rd pair, which is good, but he also takes a spot from Dermott or Lehtonen, which is bad.

 

[4thline]

He probably pushes Holl to the 3rd pair, which is good, but he also takes a spot from Dermott or Lehtonen, which is bad.

With Muzzin-Holl being an effective pair, he could be the Kempny to Rielly's Carlson. Mobile, low mistake hockey to let Mo drive the game.

 

[Dreakmur]

With Muzzin-Holl being an effective pair, he could be the Kempny to Rielly's Carlson. Mobile, low mistake hockey to let Mo drive the game.

I like Jensen, but he is nothing close to a top pairing defenseman.

A defense of Rielly-Jensen, Muzzin-Dermott, Lehotonen-Holl is pretty bad.

 

[WTFMAN99]

I like Jensen, but he is nothing close to a top pairing defenseman.

A defense of Rielly-Jensen, Muzzin-Dermott, Lehotonen-Holl is pretty bad.

Yes.

I feel like to be in the conversation for the cup, you need some pretty special defenseman.

Heiskanen, Lindell and Klingberg....and we saw Hedman, McDonagh, Cernak, Sergachev and a pretty inspired Bogosian/Schenn.

We're nowhere close. Landing someone like Pietrangelo instantly makes the defense all that more credible.

 

[Warden of the North]

Surprised there hasn't been a move yet

 

[justashadowof]

Actually, I don’t think Mo has been mentioned as a liquidation option to gather assets and make a run at Pie.
Just thinking out loud given the paucity of RD compared to LD.
I’d think he’d have insane value given his contract, and there’s always better left side options.
Muzzin, Dermott, Lehtonen still on the left; Pie and Holl on the right.
Increased secondary FA or trade options, big haul on Mo.

I've suggested it before. Rielly could return a substantial package maybe even including another right side defenseman. The Leafs' left side is still passable without Rielly and has some depth. Also, if you're looking for a defense UFA bargain, LHD are going to be more plentiful.

 

[Sonofamitch]

Would you guys be cool with Bozak coming back at 50% retained for like a 4th rounder. Saves the blues from a buy out and saves 2.5 on the cap for them. Play him in the 3rd center role and move Kerfoot for some assets.

 

[Stephen]

Just reading through Athletic.

I think moving Engvall would be a minor-mistake. I get the contract point of view Mirtle's been pushing, but Engvall's been a slow rolling guy at every level. I just think he needs more NHL seasoning to grow into his role. I'd probably keep Gautheir around too if he comes cheap (which he should).

Nick Jensen could be a good add on cheap if Washington's looking to shed salary. He's strong defensively. Moderate salary. Not solving your top-four issues though.

Engvall is a pretty unique athlete. Not a lot of NHLers with that kind of wingspan who can motor so effortlessly. I'd keep him around for a couple more years and see if he can expand his role.

 

[hamzarocks]

Would you guys be cool with Bozak coming back at 50% retained for like a 4th rounder. Saves the blues from a buy out and saves 2.5 on the cap for them. Play him in the 3rd center role and move Kerfoot for some assets.

Naw dont want bozak back. Hes too old to be an effective 3C. Even at 2.5 million hell be a bit overpaid being a low 30 point slow and unphyscial 3C. I'm fine with trading kerfoot but I'd want a youngish 3C like Tierney as the target if we move kerfoot

 

[Stephen]

Would you guys be cool with Bozak coming back at 50% retained for like a 4th rounder. Saves the blues from a buy out and saves 2.5 on the cap for them. Play him in the 3rd center role and move Kerfoot for some assets.

I think the idea is to let St. Louis collapse under the weight of their heavy middle class contracts so we can lure their captain home. So no, I don't want to help them on a Bozak deal.

 

[realgoodleafs]

Braun
Brodie
Hamonic
Gudas

What contracts are these players expected to get?

 

[stickty111]

Would you guys be cool with Bozak coming back at 50% retained for like a 4th rounder. Saves the blues from a buy out and saves 2.5 on the cap for them. Play him in the 3rd center role and move Kerfoot for some assets.

Bozak isn't very good defensively, while Kerfoot is pretty solid. I would keep Kerfoot unless we get an upgrade at 3rd C.

 

[stickty111]

Regarding the Spezza talk from the last thread, Koshan said Spezza is interested in coming back at league min a couple days ago. I get Leafs may want to see whats out there and then come to him, but honestly, I would just sign him now and get at least that over with.

 

[SeaOfBlue]

Braun
Brodie
Hamonic
Gudas

What contracts are these players expected to get?

Braun I would imagine is something in the 2.5 mill range on a 2 year deal.

Gudas may get 3x3, but I personally think that is an overpayment.

Brodie is getting at least 5x5 IMO. Hamonic may take a shorter term deal for less money, maybe like 3x4.5 mill.

However who knows how stupid teams get. I doubt the Leafs get any of these guys except maybe Braun TBH.