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[Sidney the Kidney]

for the record, my interesting in PB has nothing to do with him having been in the Penguins organization at any point in time.

He likes the players, he would stick up for them, and he's the kind of guy the Pens have lacked for a few years.

All of that is true, regardless of his past. He brings more to the bottom-6 than Adams or most of the WBS guys who would fill that 12/13 spot.

I'm actually surprised Tocchet hasn't pushed for a tough guy yet. Of all the coaches on staff, he just seems like the type that'd be all "old school" and want someone who could not only play, but protect the stars.

 

[IcedCapp]

I'm actually surprised Tocchet hasn't pushed for a tough guy yet. Of all the coaches on staff, he just seems like the type that'd be all "old school" and want someone who could not only play, but protect the stars.

maybe he was only allowed one celebrity freebee and he wasted it on Downie.

RIP

 

[Zen Arcade]

Leblond is already here, maybe they'll give him a look.

He's an odd case, he's not that bad of a player, especially compared to other enforcers, it makes me wonder why he hasn't caught on anywhere.

 

[Ogrezilla]

Leblond is already here, maybe they'll give him a look.

He's an odd case, he's not that bad of a player, especially compared to other enforcers, it makes me wonder why he hasn't caught on anywhere.

Because he is pretty bad compared to actual hockey players.

 

[Zen Arcade]

Because he is pretty bad compared to actual hockey players.

That's fine and dandy, but looking at some other fighters that have gotten extended looks or even stuck in the league for years like Boulton, Scott or even Bissonnette it's a bit curious.

 

[Ogrezilla]

That's fine and dandy, but looking at some other fighters that have gotten extended looks or even stuck in the league for years like Boulton, Scott or even Bissonnette it's a bit curious.

Well Boulton and Bissonnette have played for bad teams. Scott, I'm not really sure. I think it takes a good bit of luck for a fighter to make the league and stick these days. Even significantly moreso than when those guys did it.

 

[Stad]

So when is training camp? have the dates been announced yet?

 

[billybudd]

You have literally no evidence of that so I will counter with no they weren't.

Go rewatch the game on 4/12. The whole game is evidence.

The old "I'm going to beat you up" doesn't work unless some one gets beat up.

Hockey players are not the aliens you're pretending they are. They are highly competitive humans (humans, not aliens), who respond to human (not alien) psychological pressures in the sorts of ways that humans (not aliens) tend to respond. This includes fear of harm and damaged pride.

If **** talking, threats and agitation didn't work (and how someone could have watched the past few seasons and come away with the idea that it can't is...I don't know what team you were watching, but it wasn't this one...that's the book on how to beat the Penguins since 2012), nobody would use these tactics.

Tons of players and almost every team uses agitation or intimidation, to one extent or another.

There is a reason enforcers have died.

Enforcers didn't die; they got smaller. I forget how many playoff teams had one, but it was something like 11 out of 16.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

I don't mind Biz Nasty, it would also mean his signing means Adams is probably finally done.

Also, Biz Nasty is awesome, let the prodigal clown return home.

 

[Zen Arcade]

Go rewatch the game on 4/12. The whole game is evidence.




Hockey players are not the aliens you're pretending they are. They are highly competitive humans (humans, not aliens), who respond to human (not alien) psychological pressures in the sorts of ways that humans (not aliens) tend to respond. This includes fear of harm and damaged pride.

If **** talking, threats and agitation didn't work (and how someone could have watched the past few seasons and come away with the idea that it can't is...I don't know what team you were watching, but it wasn't this one...that's the book on how to beat the Penguins since 2012), nobody would use these tactics.

Tons of players and almost every team uses agitation or intimidation, to one extent or another.

And with a guy like Leblond, you don't necessarily know if it's just talk or posturing. If you don't believe me, ask Marcus Johansson.

 

[HandshakeLine]

I'm actually surprised Tocchet hasn't pushed for a tough guy yet. Of all the coaches on staff, he just seems like the type that'd be all "old school" and want someone who could not only play, but protect the stars.

Who's to say he hasn't? The problem is, those guys are exceedingly rare commodities.

I've been extremely vocal about getting us a Clark/Tocchet-esque powerforward for years, but there's a difference between wishing and actually being able to do something.

**** in one hand, wish in the other. See which fills up faster.

 

[Randy Butternubs]

4 days, 6 hours, and 18 minutes until Hayes is a Pen.

 

[Kristopher Letang]

4 days, 6 hours, and 18 minutes until Hayes is a Pen.

And that's what we call August disease in hockey terms folks !

 

[Shady Machine]

Half our team was intimidated by taunts all of last year. Megna and Zolnierczyk were the worst offenders.

You are going to parrot the Megna non sense again. Let it go man.

 

[Shady Machine]

You have literally no evidence of that so I will counter with no they weren't.

The old "I'm going to beat you up" doesn't work unless some one gets beat up. There is a reason enforcers have died.

I think Billy is delusional with the Megna fear. He brings it up repeatedly even though Megs continued to go to the net hard after he supposedly **** his pants on the bench. That said, intimidation still exists. Professional hockey players aren't immune to fear.

 

[PensBandwagonerNo272*]

We have no room for Bissonnette. We complain how we focus too much on bottom 6 forwards yet a Biznasty rumor starts floating around and people hop on board?

Stay the course people.

Not to mention, the era where enforcers have any role in the NHL is dying, fast.

 

[HandshakeLine]

We have no room for Bissonnette. We complain how we focus too much on bottom 6 forwards yet a Biznasty rumor starts floating around and people hop on board?

Stay the course people.

Not to mention, the era where enforcers have any role in the NHL is dying, fast.

Moves will be made whether or not we get Bissonnette. It's a little silly to worry about contracts and cap space in the summer, especially before the first day of camp.

I'd also like to point out that, whether or not we feel an enforcer has a place in the NHL, Sidney Crosby has been very vocal about liking an enforcer on the team and in the locker room.

And that, for my money, matters way more than whatever the fans think.

 

[Ogrezilla]

Moves will be made whether or not we get Bissonnette. It's a little silly to worry about contracts and cap space in the summer, especially before the first day of camp.

I'd also like to point out that, whether or not we feel an enforcer has a place in the NHL, Sidney Crosby has been very vocal about liking an enforcer on the team and in the locker room.

And that, for my money, matters way more than whatever the fans think.

Crosby has, when asked about his enforcer teammates, said he likes having them around. He has never once given an unprompted comment saying he likes enforcers on the team; and he has never said it as a generality without discussing a specific teammate. At least that I've ever seen.

 

[Shady Machine]

Crosby has, when asked about his enforcer teammates, said he likes having them around. He has never once given an unprompted comment saying he likes enforcers on the team; and he has never said it as a generality without discussing a specific teammate. At least that I've ever seen.

Crosby also said he likes playing with a right hander when question about Beau on his line. Said he feels comfortable with KCD when asked if he liked Dupuis on his right wing. Crosby will say whatever is non controversial.

 

[Ogrezilla]

Crosby also said he likes playing with a right hander when question about Beau on his line. Said he feels comfortable with KCD when asked if he liked Dupuis on his right wing. Crosby will say whatever is non controversial.

exactly.

 

[stepdad gaary]

paul bissonnette had 1 less point over the past 2 seasons than Tanner glass despite playing 936 less minutes.

just an lol worthy stat

 

[Black Label]

Biz said on his Twitter that he was talking to a few teams. Hopefully we are one of them. We need him just for his Twitter account alone.

 

[mpp9]

If Kapanen can make this team, we'd have a **** ton of RHS options for Sid. All with different skillsets. Would be huge if that kid is our forward version of Maatta.

 

[PensBandwagonerNo272*]

Crosby also said he likes playing with a right hander when question about Beau on his line. Said he feels comfortable with KCD when asked if he liked Dupuis on his right wing. Crosby will say whatever is non controversial.

Indeed. Sid completely shies away from politics, right or wrong. Whether he actually would prefer an enforcer on the team, who knows.

I would propose that he is nearly indifferent about it. It would have little effect on his impact.

 

[Shady Machine]

Indeed. Sid completely shies away from politics, right or wrong. Whether he actually would prefer an enforcer on the team, who knows.

I would propose that he is nearly indifferent about it. It would have little effect on his impact.

I agree. Having a Rick Tocchet type of player would have an effect though.