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- Mar 1, 2002
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As a moderator here, and one who needs to follow the rules of not just posting "Q F T" after a post which you agree 100%, I will simply say:
Yea, what Drew said.
Yea, what Drew said.
Based on this I DO NOT want to hear or see a single thread on how the league has to increase revenues further.
GM's are their own worse enemies and then cry that the Admin team has to make changes to bail their bankrupt teams out.
Looking over the salaries offered there's only a handful of offers that appear on the extreme side. Yes, there's the Schubert, Brodeur, Khabibulin, Nolan, Carter offers but the other offers are within reason and there is even cases for some of the players above. I'll only speak about some of my signings so far.
Schubert is a RFA, if the offer was not on the high end then Laurens would not have passed.
I negotiated with Reggie on Brodeur and offered what I thought was reasonable and way above what he was making on the NHL. Reggie passed because he felt he could get well over $7mil for him. He was right. The Bulin "Holes in the" Wall and Kolzig received big offers but in Kolzig's case he was second on my list and if I lost out on Brodeur than I wanted to make sure I signed Kolz, who I thought was the next best goalie out there and had the best season outside of Brodeur as far as free agents go and I certainly couldn't go into the season with James Howard as my #1. Don't really know if that was the case with the commish and his signing but if you have a major need for a goalie, you have to pay. What's the average of the top 15 starting goalies in the NHL? I'm sure its somewhere around $4 million.
It's like the NHL. Some teams have needs so they overpay. Then there's the idiotic teams like the Oilers, who went nuts after losing out on Nylander. I don't think we really had someone go nuts in our FA bidding and all in all it was pretty reasonable. I don't have the figures in front of me now but I would think the average offers last year were higher.
My take. Let the fury continue.
3. Geez....thought I actually lowballed on Carter based on what I've seen historically in this league. I personally like the guy as a player and to SPG's point, the fact he can't seem to catch on with an NHL team baffles me when alot worse players seem to have....
Perhaps the 8M spent on Brodeur will pay for itself when the team hits it's goaltending endorsement targets.
I doubt 8m for one of maybe the top 5 goalies all time can be considered overpaying. After all atleast 3 GM's tought it was perfectly ok. Or 5m for a top 6 forward or a star defenseman. It's the long term +2m bids on 3rd-4th liners(to name a few Sanderson, Carter and Bates), 3rd pair or depth defensemen(to name a few Greene, Martinek and Boynton), etc. that can be a problem in the long run..
I doubt 8m for one of maybe the top 5 goalies all time can be considered overpaying. After all atleast 3 GM's tought it was perfectly ok. Or 5m for a top 6 forward or a star defenseman. It's the long term +2m bids on 3rd-4th liners(to name a few Sanderson, Carter and Bates), 3rd pair or depth defensemen(to name a few Greene, Martinek and Boynton), etc. that can be a problem in the long run..
A few signings that should be void...
Ryan Duncan Phil $ 875,000 2 - Has not left school
David Jones VAN $ 800,000 2 - on DET's minor roster
David McKee Phil $ 575,000 2 - on VAN's minor roster
Mark Dekanich Pho $ 500,000 3 - Has not left school
Erik Condra Pho $ 500,000 3 - Has not left school
And a question on one more...
Jerome Samson MINN $ 450,000 3
Samson is a 19 y/o CHLer. Is he eligible for a contract?
The Matt Greene signing should be fine... he was a pending RFA who was not qualified by LA, making him a UFA.
And a question on one more...
Jerome Samson MINN $ 450,000 3
Samson is a 19 y/o CHLer. Is he eligible for a contract?
The Matt Greene signing should be fine... he was a pending RFA who was not qualified by LA, making him a UFA.
My apologies for the invalid college offers. To be perfectly honest, I thought eligibility was determined by age.
Also.... Tomas Surovy (Euro) is signed by St. Louis, but he is actually on the Kings prospect list.
i completely agree, but i don't think you can apply that to all gms. some try to be reasonable
I doubt 8m for one of maybe the top 5 goalies all time can be considered overpaying. After all atleast 3 GM's tought it was perfectly ok. Or 5m for a top 6 forward or a star defenseman. It's the long term +2m bids on 3rd-4th liners(to name a few Sanderson, Carter and Bates), 3rd pair or depth defensemen(to name a few Greene, Martinek and Boynton), etc. that can be a problem in the long run..
Since I am leaving the country in a few hours I hope its ok for me to send in my offers now.
I doubt 8m for one of maybe the top 5 goalies all time can be considered overpaying. After all atleast 3 GM's tought it was perfectly ok. Or 5m for a top 6 forward or a star defenseman. It's the long term +2m bids on 3rd-4th liners(to name a few Sanderson, Carter and Bates), 3rd pair or depth defensemen(to name a few Greene, Martinek and Boynton), etc. that can be a problem in the long run..
It is. My offers are done and I don't believe we're competing on anyone anyway.
There is a grey area in our eligibility criteria for CHLers, which has lead to some confusion re players like Samson. We state the player needs to have a birthday of '87 or earlier, yet also has to be 20 years old, when in fact there are 19 year olds right now who have passed through two drafts and were in fact born in '87.
My apologies for the invalid college offers. To be perfectly honest, I thought eligibility was determined by age.