GDT: Free Agency - Oct 9th - 11:00am CT

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  1. ChiHawk21 Registered User

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    what is going on in this thread. regula is buff and joki is tvr at best? this has got to be a joke. Joki is a top 4 defenseman right now. what in the world.
     
  2. Kevin Musto Ian Mitchell's #1 Fan

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    He's a #4/5
     
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  3. RememberTheRoar “I mean, we tried.” - Jonathan Toews

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    According to some Joki was a top-4 dman before his first NHL game. Not.

    He wasn't then and he isn't now.
     
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    I dont think most people were so highly found of him until Q showed he was.
     
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    But he was for a while here, and he is now.
     
  7. Kevin Musto Ian Mitchell's #1 Fan

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    Playing top 4 minutes because your team has no defense, doesn't make you a top 4 D.
     
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    But he wasn't in any manner for Buffalo.

    If your case is he was because he played with Keith for 15ish games then he in no way can be considered top 4 "now"
     
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    He was playing top 4 mins and succeeding, that's being a top 4 Dman. Was he a top 120 Dman in the league? Maybe not, but he handled the mins he was given fairly well.

    And BUF fans and myself disagree with you.
     
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    would a 50% retained Fluery have value to you guys? (in terms of draft picks?)
     
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    Ya a 1st and a 2nd at 50% wouldnt be the worst.
     
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    Dylan setting himself up for just the qualifying offer
     
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    Hawks qualified him. I don't think there's anything more to the "negotiations". He either accepts the qualifying offer, gets an offer sheet, or doesn't play.... That's it.
     
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    Well actually the rumor was the Hawks offered him around 2 years 2.25mil. If true, he could accept that or the QO if he wanted.
     
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    Assuming that's still on the table.
     
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    Does a bear shit in the woods?

    Glass, Krebs or possibly Hague instead of picks.
     
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    Actually he was with Hawks and is a #4 in Buffalo

    And alot on this board are crowning Mr Mitchell as the best thing since sliced bread... As of this moment he has shown not a damn thing to be worthy of hype

    Plenty of NCAA studs have proven crap in NHL

    At end of day we gave away a young defender in Joker for no damn justifiable reason and it has hurt franchise. With Joker we likely dont trade for one of de Haan or Maatta or both
     
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    Sure a 1st+

    But Vegas has said they aren't retaining nor willing to give up good asset and league rightfully balked on MAF offer from Vegas (Full contract + 2nd is laughable for a fading #2)

    Vegas is stuck with Fleury now and had to give away a good defender as a result
     
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    This is exactly what I'm talking about. Perhaps Joker did play top-4 in stints with weak teams but he is not a top-4 calibre dman in skill and effectiveness. He's young so it may still happen but in my mind, it is very questionable that he ever will be.
     
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    He performed like one, and did so again this year in BUF. You probably havent even watched him, you just make up your mind and that's that.
     
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    Jokiharju is closing in on the most overrated status and this point. Easily.
     
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    Saying he performed like a top 4 defenseman on Buffalo, who has sucked for what 2 decades now? Is hardly some accomplishment. Did you see who composes of their top4?

    On a even a playoff bubble team Joker is not a good #4 right now.
     
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    Performing like one is different than just surviving as one. Point is, he is already a 4 on good nights, 5/6 on bad nights. He was a little more inconsistent as the season went on, but that's nothing new for a 20 year old Dman. Buffalo fans love him, and they should, all they had to do was trade a shit player for him.
     
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    At this point, we CERTAINLY lost that trade.....whether it's impacting either team's fortunes, meh.
     
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