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[Styles]

Let’s hear it for a Mcdonoughless Stan!

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

Going to make wild outlandish prediction

Stanley makes two trades in next couple days that will send mixed message on where team stands and is headed

#1
To
D Nick Leddy (500k retained)

To
D Dennis Gilbert

Clears 5M off cap so Isles can extend Barzal , Pulock and Toews

Stanley gets back Leddy signed for 2 more years as veteran top 4 LHD

#2
To
D Connor Murphy

To
Maple Leafs 2021 2nd round pick
Maple Leafs 2022 2nd round pick

Hawks end up with this D

Keith-Boqvist
Leddy-Mitchell
Kalynuk-de Haan
Seabrook

 

[Styles]

Going to make wild outlandish prediction

Stanley makes two trades in next couple days that will send mixed message on where team stands and is headed

#1
To
D Nick Leddy (500k retained)

To
D Dennis Gilbert

Clears 5M off cap so Isles can extend Barzal , Pulock and Toews

Stanley gets back Leddy signed for 2 more years as veteran top 4 LHD

#2
To
D Connor Murphy

To
Maple Leafs 2021 2nd round pick
Maple Leafs 2022 2nd round pick

Hawks end up with this D

Keith-Boqvist
Leddy-Mitchell
Kalynuk-de Haan
Seabrook

Probably a Danny Wirtz move. Stans hands were tied...that’s gonna be a good laugh when they claim it. Oh wait you proposed that?

 

[Toews2Bickell]

this thread about to be a bigger letdown than the 2018 July 1

 

[ClydeLee]

this thread about to be a bigger letdown than the 2018 July 1

Wait, we're people here expecting moves? I remember Powers promoting this idea thinking they would be players for moves.

Thats when I thought they were clearly in retool mode to do nothing intentionally though.

 

[EddieTheEagle]

I want to take on garbage for valuable assets. Bring on the shortened season tire fire and let's do this! Send us some short, trashy contracts and attach some juicy first and second round picks to them, please.

JT and PK won't/shouldn't go anywhere and if DK doesn't want to go, he shouldn't but if he wants to chase another Cup, send him to a team with legit chances. The rest of the board really underestimates what DK still brings to the game. If he goes to a contender and they get in the playoffs, I think you will start to see more and more threads about DK still being an absolute machine.

Fingers crossed for no dumb signings...godspeed, everyone.

 

[Toews2Bickell]

Wait, we're people here expecting moves? I remember Powers promoting this idea thinking they would be players for moves.

Thats when I thought they were clearly in retool mode to do nothing intentionally though.

Not expecting player moves, just disappointing that this team has so much cap locked up in players that are unproductive and you see teams near top of standings doing whatever they can to get better...this org needs a complete reset, accumulate picks and get cap off the books, and eventually a new front office (keep mark kelley and some of the scouting staff, stan can go for this cap mess)...

 

[Hawkaholic]

 

[Toews2Bickell]

translation: we really don't want to go with these guys in net but the youth movement is the only thing we can sell the fans but we're secretly trying to 'explore' not going with the youth in net

 

[No Fun Shogun]

Extending Subban almost feels like a free agency signing given how little we actually saw of him in the net.

Note: not a positive or negative statement

 

[ozzzie19]

I want to take on garbage for valuable assets. Bring on the shortened season tire fire and let's do this! Send us some short, trashy contracts and attach some juicy first and second round picks to them, please.

JT and PK won't/shouldn't go anywhere and if DK doesn't want to go, he shouldn't but if he wants to chase another Cup, send him to a team with legit chances. The rest of the board really underestimates what DK still brings to the game. If he goes to a contender and they get in the playoffs, I think you will start to see more and more threads about DK still being an absolute machine.

Fingers crossed for no dumb signings...godspeed, everyone.

With what magical cap space are we taking on these short trashy contracts?

 

[Muffinalt]

Pretty crazy how little value players with a higher cap figure are going for. Very unique off-season.

 

[Kaners Bald Spot]

Pretty crazy how little value players with a higher cap figure are going for. Very unique off-season.

They're going to have to retain 50% on Saad if they move him to get any sort of value.
I might hold at this point....though they're taking a risk if the season is canceled.

 

[EddieTheEagle]

With what magical cap space are we taking on these short trashy contracts?

We will have cap space. Strome and Kub will be back for relatively cheap, 2-3 year deals. And I can't see us spending over $2.5M in total for our goaltending situation. I could also see them making a trade of a current roster player (Saad?) with a bit of retention. And just wait until Seabs goes on LTIR (which obviously won't change today but will give us flexibility in the season).

 

[EddieTheEagle]

They're going to have to retain 50% on Saad if they move him to get any sort of value.
I might hold at this point....though they're taking a risk if the season is canceled.

Disagree. The market for Saad is different. He is a short term solution for a team looking to load up at a Cup. Stastny to Winnipeg was Vegas offloading a contract to make a run at bigger names.

While we may retain on Saad, I don't think you'd need to retain 50% just to get some value.

 

[Mrfenn92]

If the deal is worth it you retain the full 50% retention

 

[Kaners Bald Spot]

We will have cap space. Strome and Kub will be back for relatively cheap, 2-3 year deals. And I can't see us spending over $2.5M in total for our goaltending situation. I could also see them making a trade of a current roster player (Saad?) with a bit of retention. And just wait until Seabs goes on LTIR (which obviously won't change today but will give us flexibility in the season).

Let's say Kubalik comes in at 3.9, Strome at 2.5 and Subban at 1M.
That leaves them.....~3.5M in cap space. What are they going to do with that?
They almost have to move Saad.

 

[deytookerjaabs]

Malcolm seems to be a part of Stan's 1st round rehab program, good luck.

 

[Toews2Bickell]

i know hindsight is 20/20 but man think about what could've been if the hawks came into this summer with the cap space they had last summer...there would've been opportunities all over the place to add solid nhl players for nothing...they wanted ryan murray and he just went for a late pick, they could've added a paul statsny for a pick as well...random luck that sometimes ya need to go your way

 

[Mrfenn92]

Subban 2 years $900k aav for Subban

 

[Kaners Bald Spot]

Subban 2 years $900k aav for Subban

He could be a late bloomer. Worth a try.

 

[Toews2Bickell]

He could be a late bloomer. Worth a try.

 

[Muffinalt]

We will have cap space. Strome and Kub will be back for relatively cheap, 2-3 year deals. And I can't see us spending over $2.5M in total for our goaltending situation. I could also see them making a trade of a current roster player (Saad?) with a bit of retention. And just wait until Seabs goes on LTIR (which obviously won't change today but will give us flexibility in the season).

Actually not that much cap space :/

If Kubalik 3.9, Strome 2.5, Subban 1.5, Kalynuk up Seabs as 7D, both Nylander and Smith on the roster as 13/14th forward

-- that's 1.2 mil only, and we need 1 mil for bonuses right?

We could create more space if Subban o ly gets 1 mil, and we only have 13 forwards up (let's say Nylander as the 12th, Smith as 13th, Highmore sent down),

-- then it's 2.5 mil.

So I don't expect anything more than a 1.5 mil player. We really should've gotten rid of Smith imo to keep Cagguila comfortably. But that 1.5 player could be him actually, would be nice.

 

[RayP]

He could be a late bloomer. Worth a try.

He was really, really bad in Vegas.... and it’s not like he was playing behind a bad defensive team.