GDT: Free Agency Nonsense Part 2

[Igor Shestyorkin]

I was interested I trading Klein to make room for Hags. Now that that ship has sailed, I really don't see the point. Losing Klein's salary isn't going to open up enough room for a top 6 winger.

if we get Semin at 2Mil and trade Klein then that's 900K saved right there.

 

[Kaapo di tutti capi]

Gorton trade glass before AV can even have the chance to play him again

the second worst move Slats made last year (after letting Stralman walk) was signing Glass when Winnik was still available.

 

[Igor Shestyorkin]

the second worst move Slats made last year (after letting Stralman walk) was signing Glass when Winnik was still available.

Santorelli was available too... Sather is such an a-hole.

 

[Kaapo di tutti capi]

if we get Semin at 2Mil and trade Klein then that's 900K saved right there.

Do NOT want Semin under any circumstances. Talented as hell, but doesn't give a ****.

 

[Igor Shestyorkin]

Do NOT want Semin under any circumstances. Talented as hell, but doesn't give a ****.

Not even on a 1 year 2 way contract?

 

[Kaapo di tutti capi]

Not even on a 1 year 2 way contract?

Why would he take that when he can make a metric ****ton of money in Russia?

 

[Igor Shestyorkin]

Why would he take that when he can make a metric ****ton of money in Russia?

I'm just giving an example, or more like giving you a yes or no scenario, if the Rangers COULD(which they won't) get Semin on a 1 year 2 way contract, would you want him?

 

[Rick Nash 61]

Fast won't be in the top 6. I think our roster for next season is pretty much set as much as I'd love to add Semin.

Kreider-Stepan-Miller
Nash-Brass-Zucc
Stalberg-Hayes-Etem
Glass-Moore-Fast
Bourque/Lindberg

McD-G
Staal-Boyle
Yandle-Klein
Diaz-McIlrath

Lundqvist
Raanta

But dude how much sicker would this forward group look

Kreider-Stepan-Semin
Nash-Brass-Zucc
Etem-Hayes-Miller
Stalberg-Moore-Fast

With Etem/Stalberg and maybe even Fast/Miller rotating between the top 9 and the 4th line depending on who's playing best. Either way that forward group is deep as hell. Bringing Semin in is honestly a no brainer, which is why I'm so pissed we won't do it.

 

[Kaapo di tutti capi]

I'm just giving an example, or more like giving you a yes or no scenario, if the Rangers COULD(which they won't) get Semin on a 1 year 2 way contract, would you want him?

If you're asking this to make me take back "under any circumstances", then ok. I take it back. I figured it was implied that I meant under any realistic circumstances.

 

[Igor Shestyorkin]

But dude how much sicker would this forward group look

Kreider-Stepan-Semin
Nash-Brass-Zucc
Etem-Hayes-Miller
Stalberg-Moore-Fast

With Etem/Stalberg and maybe even Fast/Miller rotating between the top 9 and the 4th line depending on who's playing best. Either way that forward group is deep as hell. Bringing Semin in is honestly a no brainer, which is why I'm so pissed we won't do it.

And you even have Lindberg as the 13th forward in that line-up which makes it even more deep, holy crap the Rangers would be stacked on depth, they also have Bourque who can fill in on the 4th line if needed, and Gibbons, and so on and so forth. The defensive depth isn't bad as well, Skjei waiting in the wings, Diaz back, McI, the Goalie depth got better with Hellberg being acquired, we also have Skapski, the depth for the Rangers is looking very good.

 

[Igor Shestyorkin]

If you're asking this to make me take back "under any circumstances", then ok. I take it back. I figured it was implied that I meant under any realistic circumstances.

Under realistic circumstances he would never sign a two way deal, so you got me there.

 

[darko]

But dude how much sicker would this forward group look

Kreider-Stepan-Semin
Nash-Brass-Zucc
Etem-Hayes-Miller
Stalberg-Moore-Fast

With Etem/Stalberg and maybe even Fast/Miller rotating between the top 9 and the 4th line depending on who's playing best. Either way that forward group is deep as hell. Bringing Semin in is honestly a no brainer, which is why I'm so pissed we won't do it.

Agree on how good the lineup would look but for all we know Semin either wants more than a 1 year deal or wants more money than we can offer him. We don't know if Rangers have or haven't spoken to him.

 

[Igor Shestyorkin]

Agree on how good the lineup would look but for all we know Semin either wants more than a 1 year deal or wants more money than we can offer him. We don't know if Rangers have or haven't spoken to him.

From the looks of things I don't think he has been discussing much with any teams.

 

[darko]

And you even have Lindberg as the 13th forward in that line-up which makes it even more deep, holy crap the Rangers would be stacked on depth, they also have Bourque who can fill in on the 4th line if needed, and Gibbons, and so on and so forth. The defensive depth isn't bad as well, Skjei waiting in the wings, Diaz back, McI, the Goalie depth got better with Hellberg being acquired, we also have Skapski, the depth for the Rangers is looking very good.

That would be one stacked top-9 and some really good depth. Like 2-3 guys out of the lineup that can come in and contribute.

 

[Igor Shestyorkin]

That would be one stacked top-9 and some really good depth. Like 2-3 guys out of the lineup that can come in and contribute.

Yep! It would be a great thing to have....now they just need a puck moving RHD...

 

[darko]

Caps sign the best winger on the market for a cheap price. He adds experience to a youthful 2nd line. Division keeps getting better.

They also lost Mike Green.

 

[Rick Nash 61]

And you even have Lindberg as the 13th forward in that line-up which makes it even more deep, holy crap the Rangers would be stacked on depth, they also have Bourque who can fill in on the 4th line if needed, and Gibbons, and so on and so forth. The defensive depth isn't bad as well, Skjei waiting in the wings, Diaz back, McI, the Goalie depth got better with Hellberg being acquired, we also have Skapski, the depth for the Rangers is looking very good.

We would be freaking set honestly. That 4th line would even be nothing to mess with even with an injury to the team. Because we have guys like Fast and Stalberg who could easily step into top 9 roles and Lindberg filling in on the 4th line which would be perfect.

Agree on how good the lineup would look but for all we know Semin either wants more than a 1 year deal or wants more money than we can offer him. We don't know if Rangers have or haven't spoken to him.

True. I'm just trying to lower my hopes so if something happens like he signs with Pittsburgh and plays on a line with Geno ****ing Malkin I won't get depressed lol.

Might sound crazy but I'd give him 3 years 9 million if we had to. Realistically though I think he can be had for one year 2.5 million because of the fact that he's getting that money from Carolina still. We will see.

 

[darko]

Or, and this is what I'm hoping for, Lindberg impressed big time at camp, allowing us to move Hayes to RW for the time being.

That would be huge. If we good have Lindberg/Moore as our bottom 6 Cs you move Hayes onto Stepan's wing.

Kreider/Stepan / Hayes

 

[Radek27]

I only wanted Justin Williams in UFA and he signed with Washington, yuck!

 

[darko]

Calgary was a joke 3-4 years ago and now they're a cup contender.. That's how u rebuild. It doesn't have to be a 5 year tank fest

Good team but I wouldn't call them a Cup contender just yet. Let's see them show this season wasn't a fluke.

 

[Raspewtin]

They also lost Mike Green.

Doesn't matter much since they weren't really using him anyway.

 

[BBKers]

PLAYERS UNDER CONTRACT WITH NEW YORK RANGERS ORGANISATION 2015-2016 (36)
NEW YORK RANGERS SQUAD (17)
[table="head;width=4200]Nr|Pos |Player| Caphit| Status |Team| Drafted |Age 2015
1 | F | Kreider, Chris | $2,475,000 | RFA 2016|New York Rangers/NHL |R1 #19 NYR (2009) |24
2 | F | Hayes, Kevin (ELC)| $900,000* | RFA 2016|New York Rangers/NHL|R1 #24 Chicago (2010) - signed w/NYR as UFA |23
3 | D | Boyle, Dan (NTC)| $4,500,000 | UFA 2016| New York Rangers/NHL|Undrafted|39
4 | D | Yandle, Keith |$2.625,500¤ |UFA 2016| New York Rangers/NHL | R4 #105 Phoenix Coyotes (2005)| 29
5 | F | Moore, Dominic | $1,500,000 | UFA 2016| New York Rangers/NHL| R4 #95 NYR (2000)|35
6 | F | Stålberg, Viktor| $1,100,000| UFA 2016| Nashville Predators/NHL| R6 #161 Chicago Black Hawks (2006) | 29
7 | G | Raanta, Anti| $750,000| UFA 2016| Chicago Blackhawks/NHL| Undrafted | 26
8 | D | Diaz, Rafael| $700.000| UFA 2016| Calgary Flames/NHL| Undrafted | 29
9 | F | Glass, Tanner| $1,450,000 | UFA 2017| New York Rangers/NHL | R7 #265 Florida Panthers(2003)|31
10 | D | Kline, Kevin | $2,900,000 | UFA 2018| New York Rangers/NHL | R2 #37 Nashville Predators (2003)|31
11 | F | Nash, Rick (NMC)| $7,800,000| UFA 2019| New York Rangers/NHL| R1 #1 Columbus Blue Jackets (2002)| 31
12 | D | McDonagh, Ryan |$4,700,000| UFA 2019| New York Rangers/NHL| R1 #12 Montreal (2007) |26
13 | F | Zuccarello, Mats (NTC limited) | $4,500,000 | UFA 2019| New York Rangers/NHL |Undrafted (started w NYR) |28
14 | D | Girardi, Dan (NMC => NTC)| $5,500,000| UFA 2020| New York Rangers/NHL |Undrafted (started w NYR)| 31
15 | F | Brassard, Derick | $5,000,000 | UFA 2020| New York Rangers/NHL | R1 #6 Columbus Blue Jackets (2006)| 28
16 | G | Lundqvist, Henrik (NMC)| $8,500,000| UFA 2021| New York Rangers/NHL|R7 #208 NYR (2000)| 33
17 | D | Staal, Marc (NMC => NTC) | $5,750,000| UFA 2021| New York Rangers/NHL| R1 #12 NYR (2005)| 28[/table]

TOTALS
SALARY CAP: $71,400,000
CAP PAYROLL: $60,650,000
BONUSES: $2,850,000
CAP SPACE (17-man roster - 8 FWDs, 7 D, 2 G): $10,755.000
AVERAGE AGE ~ 29,47 years

* - has additional bonus money in contract
¤- Cap hit is actually $5,250,000 but 50% is retained by Arizona Coyotes
ELC - denotes player on Entry Level Contract
NTC - denotes No Trade Clause in Contract
NMC - denotes No Movement Clause in Contract

ASSIGNED TO AHL/ECHL/ELSEWHERE (20)
[table="head;width=4200]Nr |Pos |Player| Caphit| Status |Team| Drafted |Age 2015
18|D |Zámorský, Petr (ELC) | $925,000 |RFA 2016 |loaned to Örebro/SHL |Undrafted (started w NYR) |23
19| F |Nicholls, J. (ELC) | $709,167 |RFA 2016 |Greenville Road Warriors/ECHL |R7 #182 Toronto Maple Leafs (2010)| 23
20|F |Chris McCarthy (ELC) |$692,500 |RFA 2016 | Greenville Road Warriors/ECHL |Undrafted (started w NYR)| 24
21|D |Noreau, Samuel (ELC) |$685,000 |RFA 2016 | Greenville Road Warriors/ECHL |R5 #136 NYR(2011) |22
22 |F |St. Croix, M. (ELC) | $665,000 |RFA 2016 |Greenville Road Warriors/ECHL |R4 #106 NYR (2011) |22
23|D |Hughes, Tommy (ELC) | $608,333 |RFA 2016 | Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |Undrafted (started w NYR)| 23
24 |F |Kantor, Michael | $583,333 |RFA 2016 |Greenville Road Warriors/ECHL |Undrafted (started w NYR)| 23
25| F | Bourque, Ryan |$562,500|RFA 2016 | Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |R3 #80 NYR (2009) |24
26|G|Desjardins, Cédrick |$600,000|UFA 2016| Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |Undrafted |30
27| D | Summers, Chris |$600.000 |UFA 2016|Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |R1 #29 Phoenix Coyotes (2006)| 27
28|F| Tarnasky, Nick|$575,000|UFA 2016| Hartford Wolfpack/AHL|R7 #287 Tampa Bay Lightening (2003) |31
29|F| Gibbons, Brian|$???|UFA 2016| Springfield Falcons /AHL|Undrafted |27
30|F| Lindblad, Matt|$???|UFA 2016| Providence Bruins /AHL|Undrafted |25
31|F| Megna, Jason|$???|UFA 2016| Wilkes-Barre/Scranton Penguins/AHL|Undrafted |31
32| D | Donnay, Troy (ELC) | $716,667* |RFA 2017 |Erie Otters/OHL |Undrafted (started w NYR)| 21
33| G | Skapski, Mackenzie (ELC) |$661,667* |RFA 2017 |New York Rangers/NHL |R6 #170 NYR(2013) |21
34|D |Andersson, Calle (ELC) |$661,667* |RFA 2017 |loaned to Lugano/Switzerland |R4 #119 NYR (2012)| 21
35|D |Skjei, Brady (ELC) |$925,000* |RFA 2018| Minnesota Golden Gophers/NCAA| R1 #28 NYR (2012)| 21
36|F |Adam Tambellini (ELC)|$803.333*|RFA 2018| Calgary Hitmen/WHL| R3 #65 NYR (2013)| 21
37|D |Ryan Graves (ELC) |$633.333* |RFA 2018|Quebec Remparts/QMJHL |R4 #110 NYR(2013) |20[/table]

UFAs 2015 (10)
[table="head;width=4200]Nr |Pos |Player| Caphit 2014/2015| Team 2015| Drafted |Age 2015|Signed 2015
1 | F | St Louis, Marty| $5,625,000| New York Rangers/NHL| Undrafted| 40|
2 | F | Sheppard, James| $1,200,000| New York Rangers/NHL| R1 #9 Minnesota (2006)| 27|
3 | D | Hunwick , Matt|$600,000|New York Rangers/NHL |R7 #224 Boston Bruins (2003)| 30|signed with Toronto
4| D| Kostka, Mike| $650,000| Hartford Wolfpack/AHL| Undrafted | 30|signed with Ottawa
5|F| Bourque, Chris|$600,000| Hartford Wolfpack/AHL|R2 #33 Washington Capitals (2003) | 29|
6|F| Crabb, Joey |$600,000| Hartford Wolfpack/AH|R7 #226 NYR (2002) |32|
7|F| Mueller, Chris |$600,000| Hartford Wolfpack/AHL|Undrafted | 29|
8|D | Allen, Connor (ELC) |$1,775,000 (w bonuses) |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |Undrafted (started w NYR)| 25|Not qualified - UFA
9| F | Kristo, Danny |$826,875 | Hartford Wolfpack/AHL | R2 #56 Montreal Canadians (2008)| 25|not qualified - UFA
10|G | Missiaen, Jason |$715,000 | Greenville Road Warriors/ECHL |Undrafted (started w NYR) |25|not qualified - UFA[/table]

RFAs 2015 (9)
[table="head;width=4200]Nr |Pos |Player| Caphit 2014/2015| Team 2015| Drafted |Age 2015|Signed 2015
1| F | Stepan, Derek |$3,075,000| New York Rangers/NHL| R2 #51 NYR (2008)| 25|2 years of RFA remain - arb eligible
2| F | Miller, J.T. | $894,167 |New York Rangers/NHL |R1 #15 NYR (2011)| 22|qualified at $874.125
3| F | Emerson, Etem | $870,000 |Anaheim Ducks/NHL |R1 #29 Anaheim (2010)| 23|qualified at $850.500
4| F | Fast(h), Jesper |$805,000| New York Rangers/NHL| R6 #157 NYR (2010)| 24|qualified at $945.000
5| D | McIlrath, Dylan |$1,295,000 (w bonuses) |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |R1 #10 NYR (2010) | 23|qualified at $850.500
6| G | Hellberg, Magnus |$925,000| Milwaukee Admirals/AHL|R2 #38 Nashville (2011)|24|qualified at $884.625
7|D |Bodie, Matt (ELC) |$925.000 | Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |Undrafted (started w NYR) |25|qualified at $971.250
8|F | Lindberg, Oscar |$760,000 |Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |R2 #57 PHX (2010) |24|qualified at $787.500
9|F |Hrivik, Marek |$685,000|Hartford Wolfpack/AHL |Undrafted (started w NYR)|24|qualified at $698.250
10 | F | Klingberg, Carl|$600,000|Hartford Wolfpack/AHL|R2 #34 Atlanta (2009)|24|Signed in Russia - rights retained[/table]

PLAYERS STILL UNSIGNED BUT WITH RIGHTS RETAINED BY NYR (there are likely a few more here I believe)
[table="head;width=3800]Nr|Position |Player| Team| Height |Weight| Nationality |Shoots|DOB|Drafted
1|C |Fogarty, Steven| Notre Dame Fighting Irish/NCAA |6' 3"| 212 | USA| R|April 19, 1993|R3 #72 NYR (2011)
2|C |Nieves, Cristoval| Michigan Wolverines/NCAA|6' 3"| 200 | USA| L|January 23, 1994|R2 #59 NYR (2012)
3|LW |Pavel Buchnevich| Cherepovets/KHL|6' 1"| 171 | Russia| L|April 17, 1995| R3 #75 NYR (2013)
4|G |Brandon Halverson|Sault Ste. Marie (OHL)|6' 4"| 198 | USA| R|March 29, 1996 |R2 #59 NYR (2014)
5|RW |Keegan Iversson|Portland Winterhawks (WHL)|6' 1"| 220 | USA| R|April 5, 1996 | R3 #85 NYR (2014)
6|D |Ryan Mantha| Niagara IceDogs (OHL)|6' 5"| 225 | USA| R|June 18, 1996| R4 #104 NYR (2014)
7|G |Igor Shesterkin| St. Petersburg SKA (KHL)|6' 1"| 187 | Russia| L|December 30, 1995| R4 #118 NYR (2014)
8|RW |Richard Nejezchleb| Tri-City Americans (WHL)|6' 2"| 212 | Czech Republic| L|May 2, 1994| R5 #122 NYR (2014)
9|D |Tyler Nanne| Sioux Falls Stampede/USHL|5' 10"| 175 | USA| R|March 17, 1996| R5 #142 NYR (2014)
10|LW | Ryan Gropp |Seattle/WHL |6' 2"| 190 | Canada| L|September 16, 1996|R2 #41 NYR (2015)
11|LW | Robin Kovacs | AIK/Allsvenskan |6' 0"| 175 | Sweden| L|November 16, 1996|R3 #62 NYR (2015)
12|D | Sergey Zborovskiy |Regina/WHL |6' 3"| 200 | Russia| R|February 21, 1997|R3 #79 NYR (2015)
13|C | Aleksi Saarela| Ässät/FHL |5' 10"| 180 | Finland| L|January 7, 1997|R2 #89 NYR (2015)
14|C | Brad Morrison | Prince George/WHL |6' 0"| 160 | Canada| L|January 4, 1997|R4 #113 NYR (2015)
15|RW | Daniel Bernhardt |Djurgarden Jr |6' 3"| 191 | Sweden| L|April 11, 1996|R4 #119 NYR (2015)
16|G | Adam Huska| Dynamo Moscow (KHL) |6' 3"| 191 | Slovakia| L|May 12, 1997|R7 #184 NYR (2015)[/table]

2016 DRAFT PICKS

• 2nd round NYR
• 3rd round NYR
• 4th round from Arizona
• 5th round NYR
• 6th round NYR
• 7th round NYR

• We lost our 1st round pick in the trade for Keith Yandle
• We then also gained a 4th round pick from Arizona
• We traded our 4th in 2015 to San Jose for James Sheppard

2017 DRAFT PICKS

• 1st round NYR
• 2nd round NYR
• 3rd round NYR
• 4th round NYR
• 5th round NYR
• 7th round NYR

• We lost our 6th round pick in the trade for Magnus Hellberg

Comments: Do not have the number$ for Gibbons, Megna and Lindblad yet, will post when they are announced. Now at 37 contracts. Add our 9 RFAs and we are at 46. Probably 2-3 more signings coming up in UFA plus eventual trades and whatever comes of that. Need more fwds in Hartford still, maybe a defender too

 

[Kanneda]

Really hope we can sign one of Fehr or Brodziak.
And that we stay away from Semin. Even if he signs a two way contract for 700K, that guy is toxic.

 

[Ghost of jas]

My gut feeling is that, Klein will be dealt, the Rangers can wait until training camp to see what they have with McIlrath before dealing Klein. Diaz is the safety net.

Glass, OTOH, should be gone the moment his bonus check clears.

 

[Ghost of jas]

Really hope we can sign one of Fehr or Brodziak.
And that we stay away from Semin. Even if he signs a two way contract for 700K, that guy is toxic.

I really don't see the Rangers signing another bottom six player. If Miller goes into the top 6 as indicated by Brooks, you have Etem, Fast, Lindberg and Stalberg as the remaining bottom four wingers. You still have Glass, plus you have the likes of Bourque, Gibbons and Hrivik to challenge for the 13th forward spot.