Free Agency and Trade Thread: Off-season alive and well ... for some!

[hockeywiz542]

Chia reportedly says he’s prepared to move the 10th OA pick for a quality d-man....

Cmon Dubas, get it done

According to TSN Hockey Insider Bob McKenzie, the Edmonton Oilers are open to moving the No. 10 overall pick in the 2018 NHL draft for an offensive defenceman to add to their roster, preferably with a right-hand shot.

https://www.tsn.ca/oilers-open-to-moving-no-10-overall-pick-1.1119343

The Edmonton Oilers are open for business when it comes to the 10th overall pick in Friday's NHL Draft.

Oilers general manager Peter Chiarelli confirmed Thursday that he's willing to move the pick if he can get his desired return.

"We would look to move the pick if the right player is available... I've had some discussions with some teams," Chiarelli told reporters in Dallas.

TSN Hockey Insider Bob McKenzie said Wednesday he believes the Oilers are looking for an offensive defenceman to add to their roster, preferably with a right-hand shot.

“No question about it," McKenzie said when asked if the Oilers are willing to trade their pick. "The problem they are running into is that as much as they’d be prepared for the right player to give up the 10th overall pick in the draft, they don’t see that player out there right now. Yeah, they’d like a right-shot offensive defenceman. Everyone wants one of those. And Edmonton desperately needs one, but if they had a really good left-shot offensive defenceman who became available, they’d certainly look at that too for that 10th pick or some other assets. That’s their number one priority, their number one goal is to try and get that."

"The guy they really want, I think, is not available. His name is Ryan Ellis of the Nashville Predators. A year left on his contract. David Poile’s number one priority is to extend him this summer. If he doesn’t get extended then he could perhaps become available, but not in time for this weekend.”

 

[dubplatepressure]

I think a couple deals happen tonight.

 

[SprDaVE]

That’s a very interesting question. And one I’ve been thinking a lot about the last few days is whether or not he may end up on the trade market. He seemed to be brought into the organization by Hunter, and then given that huge contract by Lou. So I’m not sure how close of a connection to Dubas he has.

The stats are also a bit unclear about him, depending on which ones you look at he seems to be fine while others seem to paint him as a disaster. I wouldn’t be surprised if Dubas tries to move him.

I can also potentially see Gardiner on the trade market too if the team doesn’t plan on resigning him. I think Dubas will try to break with the “keep your own rentals” philosophy. And Gardiner has a ton of value right now, though I can also see him being resigned by the Leafs.

I think Zaitsev is an average to solid defenceman but his term is awful and with a lot of risks if he plays like he did since he signed it. I have no idea why they thought signing him to a 7 year contract was something they had to do.

My big problem if we trade Zaitsev is that Babcock loses a defenseman he really likes and relies on match ups and the PK. While we could replace him with someone a little less expensive, I think it would still be a bit of a gamble because he's not like SUPER bad. Either way, I'd be hoping to grab a top 10 prospect here (Bouchard? Smith? Boqvist? Kravstov? etc) and then move our 25th pick for a Tanev or perhaps a Colin Miller maybe.

I find the complete lack of Gardiner talk interesting. The Leafs should be floating his name out there due to his contract but I think he might be someone the Leafs want to extend.

 

[Liminality]

Well there's one option gone.

 

[htpwn]

Well there's one option gone.

I didn't expect him to stick around the American league for another year but kinda figured he might sign a deal with an out-clause, go to camp, and just bail if he didn't make the team.

Oh well. Best of luck to him anyways. While I'm sure he's disappointed he never reached the NHL, there are worse fates than being a Calder Cup champion in your only year in North America.

 

[SeaOfBlue]

Since he went to the KHL, we still retain his rights. Maybe an option later on when a more guaranteed job opens up.

 

[dubplatepressure]

Since he went to the KHL, we still retain his rights. Maybe an option later on when a more guaranteed job opens up.

Meh. With Lindholm signed we're fine anyway.

 

[Mad hatter]

I like Hamilton but he’s not going to solve the team’s defensive issues. And they don’t need his main strength - Rielly and Gardiner can provide plenty of offense from the back end

Crazy how Nylander’s name keeps popping up in trade propsals as if he was a 2nd round pick or something

I personally put his name into proposals because I feel that Nylander, Marner, Matthews or Reilly is probably the only way we can get a young top pairing RD. Out of that group of players Nylander would be the only that I’d even consider and it would have to be for a Trouba/Hamilton level player. Our firsts (hopefully) are going to be 25 or up for the next while, so not extremely valuable I’d assume. Prospects like Kapanen, Johnson are probably not good enough either I’d figure. Also I would only consider Nylander in a trade if we could sign Tavares somehow.

 

[TheDoldrums]

I like the way Dubas phrased that.

 

[ULF_55]

Treliving is inviting 2 sons of the Humbolt's Coach to the draft table.

He said he's under pressure more than ever now to give them something to do Friday night. He said he was already under pressure to get something for Friday.

So what's he gonna do to get a 1st. round pick?

 

[Menzinger]

On the Leas capspace situation

 

[SprDaVE]

On the Leas capspace situation

Using it properly will be key. Can't spend it on Komisareks, Clarksons, etc.

There isn't that much out there to spend on though... so we'll see.

 

[Morgs]

I cant wait to see how mad this will make everyone.

Rooting for ya Marincin!

 

[showtime8]

I cant wait to see how mad this will make everyone.

Rooting for ya Marincin!

I'm already bothered by this.

I really hope he gets dealt at the draft.

 

[Kiwi]

I cant wait to see how mad this will make everyone.

Rooting for ya Marincin!

His puck skills are brutal but I've got some time for his defensive game
I wouldn't mind him getting an opportunity out of camp

 

[showtime8]

His puck skills are brutal but I've got some time for his defensive game
I wouldn't mind him getting an opportunity out of camp

How many chances should the Leafs give the guy though?

I'd be more inclined to give a 25 year old that had a rough year the chance to bounce back. When it comes to 27 year old Marincin, I think he's had his fair share to crack the line-up.

 

[LaymanX]

He fails the eye test most of the time, but has good zone entry denial stats if I recall. Stuff that isn't readily noticed by most viewers but would be picked up by Dubas.

 

[Cor]

Unless Gardiner is going somewhere, there’s no spot for Marincin other than a press box role.

Which hey, Marincin is a fine d-man as an injury replacement, but you’d think he’d request not to be tendered or asked to be signed and then dealt to look for an actual chance.

 

[Cor]

Also, anyone find it interesting that Dubas said a “few may not be” in regards to our RFA’s being tendered?

William Nylander
Justin Holl
Frederick Gauthier
Martin Marincin
Andreas Johnsson


Makes me think GOAT is gonna be let go and then Marincin and Holl might be unless they sign for what the team wants them to?

 

[Kiwi]

How many chances should the Leafs give the guy though?

I'd be more inclined to give a 25 year old that had a rough year the chance to bounce back. When it comes to 27 year old Marincin, I think he's had his fair share to crack the line-up.

He's fine if your looking for a defensively responsible PK option on the bottom pair, put him with a puck mover and he can do a job

 

[WTFMAN99]

To be fair, if they said they are looking at options, maybe they consider Nylander an option and are doing their due diligence in checking other options so they are exhausting all options and making the best decision. I don't think it automatically means Nylander isn't being considered as a C.

Valid point.

Also, anyone find it interesting that Dubas said a “few may not be” in regards to our RFA’s being tendered?

William Nylander
Justin Holl
Frederick Gauthier
Martin Marincin
Andreas Johnsson


Makes me think GOAT is gonna be let go and then Marincin and Holl might be unless they sign for what the team wants them to?

He was saying they wanted to keep Marincin and I know he loves Holl. I read it as Gauthier is gonezo.

 

[jaric1862]

Also, anyone find it interesting that Dubas said a “few may not be” in regards to our RFA’s being tendered?

William Nylander
Justin Holl
Frederick Gauthier
Martin Marincin
Andreas Johnsson


Makes me think GOAT is gonna be let go and then Marincin and Holl might be unless they sign for what the team wants them to?

Probably just Gauthier out of that group and maybe Marincin. Other 3 are locks

 

[deletethis]

Speaking of poor puck skills... Preparing for the barrage of rotten tomatoes and banana peels... could Luke Schenn be the replacement for Roman Polak? Personally I think Polak's the superior player: better skater, better with the puck. Babcock seems to want the rugged RH defensive defender type.

 

[Cor]

Speaking of poor puck skills... Preparing for the barrage of rotten tomatoes and banana peels... could Luke Schenn be the replacement for Roman Polak? Personally I think Polak's the superior player: better skater, better with the puck. Babcock seems to want the rugged RH defensive defender type.

We won’t have any Polak types no more.

There’s this Kyle Dubas speech type thing, where he says he doesn’t believe in safe players or safe plays, because those players are usually in their own end all the time, because they aren’t good enough.

I’d wager Marincin has a better shot at being on the roster than Polak

 

[WTFMAN99]

Speaking of poor puck skills... Preparing for the barrage of rotten tomatoes and banana peels... could Luke Schenn be the replacement for Roman Polak? Personally I think Polak's the superior player: better skater, better with the puck. Babcock seems to want the rugged RH defensive defender type.

We won’t have any Polak types no more.

There’s this Kyle Dubas speech type thing, where he says he doesn’t believe in safe players or safe plays, because those players are usually in their own end all the time, because they aren’t good enough.

I’d wager Marincin has a better shot at being on the roster than Polak

While I agree with you guys in theory, you still need to give your coach a bone. If Babcock felt he needed a guy like Schenn and the price wasn't crippling, it should be done. Gotta keep up the working relationship etc.

That being said, I hope we don't see a Polak on the team this year.