Frederik (is it November yet) Andersen

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Probably Andersen's best game of the season so far last night against the Capitals. (Montreal game was better statistically but he had bigger saves last night) Looks good and it's only mid October.

Andersen could deny Marner from stealing a slice of bacon off his plate this morning and he'd literally be at .900 save percentage finally (sitting at .899 this morning). He only has 1 RBS ("really bad start" is an actual advanced stat? [under.850 % on the game]) I imagine it was the Ottawa game.(Ottawa was indeed .826)

4-1 win loss record is the important thing. Could he actually turn it around enough to call this October his best October as a Leaf? Still lots of time left.
 
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I dont buy this “Andersen is October bad” thing. Look at all the games in NHL in October. It is like an all star game, were pucks are going in the net in crazy tempo.

Without knowing much about it, I think that it all comes down to what the focus have been in training camp. Weight on agreements between goalie and defenders is probably very different from team to team. Some team might work a lot on it preseason while others focus more on other issues.

In Anaheim Andersen played 16 October games in 2014 and 15 combined, and made 428 saves on 457 shots. That is 93.65 save %. One game each season slightly below 90% (worst game 88.2). That is consistent.

He should be a much better goalie by now.

I am not arguing that Andersen has been solid in October as a Leaf, but I definitely believe that defense and preseason work has to have been on another level in Anaheim than it has been in Toronto.

Numbers dont add up. Cant be a coincidence

In most, if not all team sports on pro level, there is a certain understanding between goalie and defenders, so they know exactly what to do in most sitations. My theory is that this understanding is something that Bruce Boudreau prioritized much more than Babcock. Atleast in preseason
 
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On a fun side note: Andersen in October 2015 had these goal against stats as a starter for Anaheim:
1 - lost
2 - lost
2 - lost
1- lost
4 - lost
2 - lost
3 - lost

He also had a 47 minutes showing with 1 goal against - also a loss

I think he will take the current situation in Toronto any day ;)
 
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Legit #1 starting goalie. Andersen is one of the most important parts of this rebuilt team. Glad he had a good October, but I wouldn't have been concerned even if he hadn't. I trust him.
 
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Good sign he played well in October. Apart from a couple bad goals he’s been excellent. I’ve liked his poise and economy of movement.
 

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Legit #1 starting goalie. Andersen is one of the most important parts of this rebuilt team. Glad he had a good October, but I wouldn't have been concerned even if he hadn't. I trust him.

I wouldn't have been concerned either. Dividing the season up into calendar months is an arbitrary thing. If anything, I'm a little bit worried that he wasn't very good in the playoffs and even more worried that this may have been a result of being overworked as it look like the same thing is happening this season. Hopefully last year was an aberration and he'll be awesome next spring even if Babcock starts him 70 times. I really wish he'd get more rest though.

Babcock's one obvious mistake last season was not resting anybody down the stretch even though we had 3rd place pretty much locked up with a month to go. He wouldn't even rest freaking granpa Marleau like seriously Babs, WTF? But I digress ...
 
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I wouldn't have been concerned either. Dividing the season up into calendar months is an arbitrary thing. If anything, I'm a little bit worried that he wasn't very good in the playoffs and even more worried that this may have been a result of being overworked as it look like the same thing is happening this season. Hopefully last year was an aberration and he'll be awesome next spring even if Babcock starts him 70 times. I really wish he'd get more rest though.

Babcock's one obvious mistake last season was not resting anybody down the stretch even though we had 3rd place pretty much locked up with a month to go. He wouldn't even rest freaking granpa Marleau like seriously Babs, WTF? But I digress ...
Unfortunately it's a problem across hockey. NBA does that well where they will sit guys for certain games and rest important players. That being said, the leagues are very different...there is far less parity in the NBA and the best of the best will continue to win games even when benching the top players on the squad, whereas hockey is not quite as fair.
 

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Unfortunately it's a problem across hockey. NBA does that well where they will sit guys for certain games and rest important players. That being said, the leagues are very different...there is far less parity in the NBA and the best of the best will continue to win games even when benching the top players on the squad, whereas hockey is not quite as fair.
Yes because with have this stupid socialist cap system in the NHL designed to keep weaker US teams afloat. It will never become a best of best league under this leadership and program. The NBA and MLB have great teams. The NHL you can't afford to have a great team because as soon as you try you get nailed by the bettman CAP.
 

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Unfortunately it's a problem across hockey. NBA does that well where they will sit guys for certain games and rest important players. That being said, the leagues are very different...there is far less parity in the NBA and the best of the best will continue to win games even when benching the top players on the squad, whereas hockey is not quite as fair.

We didn't need to win games though, we were locked into 3rd place for quite some time. I defend Babcock here on a regular basis but why he he didn't take the golden opportunity to rest some guys when there was absolutely nothing on the line down the stretch isn't something I can't justify, no matter how hard I try.
 
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1specter

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We didn't need to win games though, we were locked into 3rd place for quite some time. I defend Babcock here on a regular basis but why he he didn't take the golden opportunity to rest some guys when there was absolutely nothing on the line down the stretch isn't something I can't justify, no matter how hard I try.
I mean I don't disagree but he's not the only one who does this. It's just not something that really happens in hockey, save for maybe the final game of the season. Remember how when the Leafs were trying to clinch the playoffs a couple of years ago and Pittsburgh still started Crosby/Malkin even though they had absolutely nothing to play for?

I think Babs was also trying to get home ice still although the Bruins had pretty much locked it up by the time the final 10 games or so rolled around.
 

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I wouldn't have been concerned either. Dividing the season up into calendar months is an arbitrary thing. If anything, I'm a little bit worried that he wasn't very good in the playoffs and even more worried that this may have been a result of being overworked as it look like the same thing is happening this season. Hopefully last year was an aberration and he'll be awesome next spring even if Babcock starts him 70 times. I really wish he'd get more rest though.

Babcock's one obvious mistake last season was not resting anybody down the stretch even though we had 3rd place pretty much locked up with a month to go. He wouldn't even rest freaking granpa Marleau like seriously Babs, WTF? But I digress ...

I think not resting Hainsey was a even bigger head scratcher.
 
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The only reason this is relevant, is because if the numbers were reversed, oh we'd hear it! ;)

Good for Freddie, bodes well moving forward.
Florida vs Winnipeg
Scoring chances: 27-11 Florida
High danger chances: 10-4 Florida
Corsi: 53-38 Florida

Bad goaltending costs the Panthers again. When you have to depend on Reimer for long stretches, you will probably lose games.
 
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Agree 100%. I would love to know what the hell Babcocok was thinking, I really would.

I love the way Babcock thinks about the game, in general. The importance of hard work to achieve success, not blaming outside influences for failures, etc.

I don't love his stubbornness, especially when it comes to veterans getting the nod, or overplaying certain players.
 

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Florida vs Winnipeg
Scoring chances: 27-11 Florida
High danger chances: 10-4 Florida
Corsi: 53-38 Florida

Bad goaltending costs the Panthers again. When you have to depend on Reimer for long stretches, you will probably lose games.

Well ... at least he's doing better than Bernier. ;)

Yes I know, that was mean. I'm sorry Jonathan (and James too) but I just couldn't help myself.
 

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He's a slow starter thats for sure but ill give him another 10 games to see how much he's improved.

He was on Leafs Lunch and said he's been working on more flexibility and core supersizes when he trains instead of lifting heavy weights. Maybe he just needed a different training style
 

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Was listening to Pier Lebrun today on Leafs Lunch and he was talking to Marty Turco former Stars netminder about a goalies work load. While both agreed it's to much during today's NHL it was interesting to hear Turco say it's the practices that really wore him down.

Was thinking maybe Leafs should carry a 3rd goalie strictly to lessen Freddie's practice work load. He can do some practice and whatever he needs with the goalie coach.

This way Babcock still has Freddy for 60 games a year but also taking somewhat of a load off of him. It is obvious Babcock feels as though it's to tight of a league to let Freddy sit more.

Thoughts?
 

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Jake Gardiner and Igor Ozhiganov are the only two blueliners for the Leafs this year to have less giveaways then games played. What the Leaf netminders have to put up with is incredible.
 
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