Injury Report: Frederik Andersen Day to Day

Gary Nylund

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I'm not talking about the media though. The only media stuff I hear is during the intermission and I only half listen to that, though I do recall he was top 3 in vezina voting one year. Seems like a ligit claim

Ps I'm of the thought a goalie can never be the onky reason you win games. IMO it's a team game. Sure all players have good and bad games and the goalie position is really affected by that, but that's why it's about the overall level of performance in the net. 60ish games with a 918sv% is flipping good

Excellent post, I agree 100% with every word.

Re. the bolded - I'm the same way, the media stuff is entertainment only and it's not all that entertaining to begin with so watching the games and reading any news here is more than enough for me.
 

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Excellent post, I agree 100% with every word.

Re. the bolded - I'm the same way, the media stuff is entertainment only and it's not all that entertaining to begin with so watching the games and reading any news here is more than enough for me.
Ya the media has its own narrative and they preach it like gospel. I lost respect for them before Simmons and hotdogs hahaha
 

LEAFANFORLIFE23

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It's going to be 2045, and you're still going to be talking about a bad stretch for Hutch in 2019-2020. My god, let it go already. He's been fine. You were wrong about the sky falling.

3 game sample size, you are all about sample size so you know that's not enough, but then again it fits your narrative now so I guess it is.

Me? I remain skeptical that a guy who was unplayable last year and arguably the worst backup the Leafs have had since 2000 if not before then is now this after 3 games.

It just doesn't seem realistic
 

Martin Skoula

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3 game sample size, you are all about sample size so you know that's not enough, but then again it fits your narrative now so I guess it is.

Me? I remain skeptical that a guy who was unplayable last year and arguably the worst backup the Leafs have had since 2000 if not before then is now this after 3 games.

It just doesn't seem realistic

You know he's played elsewhere right? His 19/20 season is the obvious outlier in his body of work over his career.
 

RealisticLeaf55

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I did like Hutch's performance last night. Still nervous as to what the future few weeks looks like with all these injuries.

Mind you, I'd rather the injury bug hit now then much later in the season.
 
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Dekes For Days

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3 game sample size, you are all about sample size so you know that's not enough, but then again it fits your narrative now so I guess it is.
It's not enough of a sample size to draw conclusions about what Hutchinson is, but nobody has said that Hutchinson is some 0.924 superstar goalie. All they said is that your "sky is falling" act because of the possibility of playing Hutchinson in a few games was ridiculous, and that has shown to be correct.
 

Gallagbi

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3 game sample size, you are all about sample size so you know that's not enough, but then again it fits your narrative now so I guess it is.

Me? I remain skeptical that a guy who was unplayable last year and arguably the worst backup the Leafs have had since 2000 if not before then is now this after 3 games.

It just doesn't seem realistic
Do we think he was even the worst backup over the past 5 years? Sparks was pretty bad
 
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Dekes For Days

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Do we think he was even the worst backup over the past 5 years? Sparks was pretty bad
Enroth: 3.94 GAA, 0.872 SV%
Pickard: 3.83 GAA, 0.857 sV%
Kaskisuo: 6.00 GAA, 0.842 SV%

And I mean, that's just in the last 4 years. Since 2000 (his claim), there's been tons of even worse single-season backup goaltending performances.

Like, Hutchinson isn't great, and he was really bad last year, but the wild exaggerations some go to are pretty ridiculous.
 
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zeke

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Over the past 4yrs, 27 goalies have faced 5000+ unblocked shot attempts:

SV%

1. Bishop 92.3
2. Kuemper 92.3
3. Vasilevskiy 92.0
4. Hellebyuck 91.8
5. Lehner 91.8
6. Rask 91.8
7. Rinne 91.6
8. Fleury 91.6
9. Halak 91.5
10. Gibson 91.5
11. Varlamov 91.5
12. Andersen 91.4
13. Markstrom 91.3
14. Dubnyk 91.1
15. Lundqvist 91.1
16. Allen 91.1
17. Bobrovsky 91.0
18. Bernier 90.9
19. Price 90.9
20. Smith 90.8
21. Quick 90.7
22. Talbot 90.7
23. Murray 90.7
24. Holtby 90.5
25. Howard 90.5
26. Anderson 90.2
27. Jones 90.1

dfSV% (differential between fsv% and expected fsv%)

1. Gibson +.61
2. Bishop +.55
3. Kuemper +.52
4. Hellebyuck +.34
5. Fleury +.23
6. Lehner +.11
7. Andersen +.07
8. Halak +.07
9. Rinne +.05
10. Lundqvist +.04
11. Rask +.04
12. Varlamov +.01
13. Markstrom +.00
14. Smith -.02
15. Bobrovsky -.04
16. Quick -.07
17. Vasilevskiy -.08
18. Holtby - .10
19. Bernier -.25
20. Talbot -.30
21. Allen -.39
22. Jones -.41
23. Howard -.48
24. Price -.53
25. Murray -.55
26. Dubnyk -.96
27. Anderson -.98


Over the last 2yrs, 27 goalies have faced 1750+ unblocked shot attempts:

Sv%

1. Kuemper 92.3
2. Rask 92.3
3. Hellebyuck 92.0
4. Bishop 92.0
5. Vasilevskiy 92.0
6. Blackwood 91.7
7. Grubauer 91.7
8. Varlamov 91.6
9. Markstrom 91.6
10. Ullman 91.5
11. Jarry 91.4
12. Binnington 91.2
13. Koskinen 91.1
14. Fleury 91.0
15. Saros 91.0
16. Hart 90.9
17. Bernier 90.8
18. Rittich 90.8
19. Andersen 90.7
20. Price 90.6
21. Quick 90.5
22. Gibson 90.5
23. Korpisalo 90.3
24. Bobrovsky 89.8
25. Holtby 89.7
26. Murray 89.6
27. Jones 89.2

dfSV%

1. Hellebyuck +.74
2. Kuemper +.62
3. Bishop +.32
4. Rask +.32
5. Binnington +.17
6. Blackwood +.16
7. Varlamov +.15
8. Grubauer +.14
9. Vasilevskiy +.13
10. Markstrom +.07
11. Koskinen +.07
12. Bernier -.03
13. Hart -.07
14. Jarry -.18
15. Fleury -.26
16. Saros -.32
17. Gibson -.37
18. Quick -.37
19. Rittich -.40
20. Ullmark -.45
21. Andersen -.47
22. Price -.65
23. Holtby -.73
24. Jones -.86
25. Korpisalo -.94
26. Bobrovsky -.96
27. Murray -1.28
 

Sherpaderp

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I havent seen much of campbell. Does anyone think he could potentially replace Anderson next year?
 

zeke

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The media preaches the SJW Gospel now and it is becoming more mind numbing every day. Came for the hockey but they feed us the politics.

Or, alternatively, assmunches are just assmunches.
 

Gallagbi

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Enroth: 3.94 GAA, 0.872 SV%
Pickard: 3.83 GAA, 0.857 sV%
Kaskisuo: 6.00 GAA, 0.842 SV%

And I mean, that's just in the last 4 years. Since 2000 (his claim), there's been tons of even worse single-season backup goaltending performances.

Like, Hutchinson isn't great, and he was really bad last year, but the wild exaggerations some go to are pretty ridiculous.
I completely forgot about Enroth, he's be my worst pick. The other two didn't play much from what I remember, but it's still a sketchy point even over the last 5 years let alone 21
 

LEAFANFORLIFE23

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Enroth: 3.94 GAA, 0.872 SV%
Pickard: 3.83 GAA, 0.857 sV%
Kaskisuo: 6.00 GAA, 0.842 SV%

And I mean, that's just in the last 4 years. Since 2000 (his claim), there's been tons of even worse single-season backup goaltending performances.

Like, Hutchinson isn't great, and he was really bad last year, but the wild exaggerations some go to are pretty ridiculous.

2 of them played 1 game the other played 6

If you are going to call me out do it right, don't list 3 guys 2 of which weren't even the Leafs backup
 

namttebih

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Enroth: 3.94 GAA, 0.872 SV%
Pickard: 3.83 GAA, 0.857 sV%
Kaskisuo: 6.00 GAA, 0.842 SV%

And I mean, that's just in the last 4 years. Since 2000 (his claim), there's been tons of even worse single-season backup goaltending performances.

Like, Hutchinson isn't great, and he was really bad last year, but the wild exaggerations some go to are pretty ridiculous.
KK was one game and the team didn't show up. :laugh:
 

Dekes For Days

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2 of them played 1 game the other played 6
So what? You were freaking out over the possibility of playing Hiutchinson for a couple games, and now all of a sudden a couple games don't count?

You're labeling Hutchinson forever off of one of the worst small samples of his career. You said worst backup in the last 21 years. That was just the last 4, and even if you don't want to count Pickard and Kaskisuo, Enroth was our backup and was unquestionably worse.

If you want more games...

Curtis Joseph: 21 GP, 5-9-1, 3.57 GAA, 0.869 SV%
Vesa Toskala: 26 GP, 7-12-3, 3.66 GAA, 0.874 SV%
J.S. Aubin: 20 GP, 3-5-2, 3.43 GAA, 0.876 SV%
Andrew Raycroft: 19 GP, 2-9-5, 3.92 GAA, 0.876 SV%
Trevor Kidd: 15 GP, 6-5-2, 3.26 GAA, 0.876 SV%
Jonas Gustavsson: 23 GP, 6-13-2, 3.28 GAA, 0.890 SV%
Etc.

Our defense at the beginning of 2019-2020 was also pretty bad with Babcock, and Hutchinson mostly played the back-end of back-to-backs.

As usual, you wildly exaggerated and were completely wrong.
 

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