NFL: Freddie Kitchens named Browns HC / Gregg Williams fired

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  1. Marc the Habs Fan

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    Seems harsh considering the job he did.
     
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    Gregg williams getting fired is hilarious and such a cold blooded move.

    Now he can entertain all the many head coaching offers he says he gets :)
     
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    He survived the Hue/Haley fight, but I bet we find out he wasn't entirely innocent through all of it. The team just couldn't fire everyone. Also remember he wasn't hired by Dorsey.

    In some ways, he did a good job of calming the situation down fairly quickly after Hue was canned. Under Williams's watch, the team got a lot better in a lot of areas that seemed to stem from better preparation.

    What made letting him go an easy decision was also the fact the team's defense wasn't making the same strides as the offense throughout the season. The defense got a whole lot of turnovers, but they also still gave up lots of yards and points and took a lot of penalties. It's not even like the unit that was his main responsibility was very good.
     
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    Don't like this hire honestly

    Kitchens coaching experience is rather limited and it seems a major leap to make him HC based on a small sample size of success as OC

    Rough for Williams the way it ends given how team played under him but he knew it was possibility with interim tag
     
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    Let's not ignore promoting his son to DC was the first move he made.
     
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    Poor Gregg Williams, can't even keep the DC job after all this lol.

    Is this the end for him?
     
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    No no no. He has about 7 offers on the table right now I believe.

    Love this hire by the Browns, him and Baker have a good thing going.
     
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    Kitchens has been coaching in the NFL for a long, long time. McVay only had like 2 years of OC experience before being hired.

    Obviously Kitchens is no McVay, and the lack of experience is an issue, (I just think it's being blown up a bit) but consider Kitchens with the other candidates in mind. The Browns have a young, brilliant offensive mind on their hands. Do they hire one of the "experienced" guys who have failed for other organizations or take a bet on their own coaching prospect, who already is loved by the locker room and Mayfield?
     
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    Williams also didn't want Kitchens as his OC anyway to begin with. Weird how things work out sometimes.
     
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    As a Colts fan, thank God we get to keep Matt Eberflus 1 more season. There's not one defensive coordinator in the league that does more with less.
     
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    Unless some team is waiting for him. Cough Cincinnati cough.
     
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    Will miss Gregg williams, not sure about Kitchens as head coach. Dorsey must have felt he'd leave next year for another head coaching job. At least the Browns didn't hire Kingsbury or Gase.
     
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    Williams won't be missed at all.
     
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    Interesting pair of moves. LOL

    Not sure how Gregg Williams still manages to get jobs, considering he was largely the head ******* during Bountygate and also deliberately disobeyed his own ****ing team's head coach by calling a zero blitz in a playoff game that left the other team's best reciever wide ****ing open, which directly led to him getting fired, is a well-known habitual liar and gets himself involved in power struggles everywhere he goes because he's the NFL's biggest weasel, but, hey, that's just me

    The Cleveland hire is intriguing, mostly because Kitchens was a freaking running backs coach 18 months ago. I'm tempted to think Mayfield pulled a Lebron here. Outside of Brees or Brady, he may have more pull than any QB in the league considering how long they have been waiting for him.
     
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    I read they were looking for someone more offensive minded.
     
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    Getting rid of Williams was just as big of a positive as keeping Kitchens imo.

    Kitchens' offense was one of the best in the league after he started calling plays. You can't let him go and you can't keep him as OC or he's getting poached in a year or 2 and Baker ends up with a new OC and offense.
     
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    How do you feel about bounties Mr. Williams?
    How do you think we almost had a winning season.

    Next guy PLEASE.
     
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    In hindsight I think this would have been a great spot for Fangio. Better than Denver at least...and when is the last time anyone said about that towards Cleveland.
     
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    Thought he'd of at least kept Williams as DC
     
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    Saw that Williams is being considered for Jets DC, him or Vance Joseph lol
     
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    Why? He's not good and hasn't been good plus he's a dick.
     
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    I thought about making this into a new thread as a joke, but the Browns have added another coach. Special teams was a huge weak point this past season.

     
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    They also added Monken as OC and Wilks as DC.

    This has to be one of the best staffs in the league now. Absolutely loaded
     

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