FPHL, SPHL Expansions

[JMCx4]

OK fine.

Put it in the Chaf.

You wish ... still.

 

[battra]

You wish ... still.

I wish so hard and so long they'd put a minor league team in the Chaf.

I know they never, ever will.

But with the changes in the Vet Rules and all that business, I think the Family Arena won't be home to hockey any time soon, which makes me sad.

There's so much wrong with St. Charles and I don't wanna get into any of it, but you know what I'm talking about.

I just think with Chase, Twist, Low, and Janssen all still living in town, if there was a fighty league, having them be the faces of the franchise and it could be a success.

But I think I've been spending too much time in the past and wishing we could put the tooth paste back in the tube.

 

[JMCx4]

I wish so hard and so long they'd put a minor league team in the Chaf.

I know they never, ever will.

But with the changes in the Vet Rules and all that business, I think the Family Arena won't be home to hockey any time soon, which makes me sad. ...

None of that rock 'em-sock 'em action you long for, but Lindenwood hockey - both men's & women's programs - are physical & very entertaining (presuming they will resume play in the fall). And social distancing @ CCIC for those games is as easy as walking into USA Arena & choosing your seat from among the 2500 available.

 

[battra]

None of that rock 'em-sock 'em action you long for, but Lindenwood hockey - both men's & women's programs - are physical & very entertaining (presuming they will resume play in the fall). And social distancing @ CCIC for those games is as easy as walking into USA Arena & choosing your seat from among the 2500 available.

We saw...what...

Five or six games last year?

Kiddo got to go into the locker room and get the sheet signed by all the women.

 

[210]

Correction: St. Charles Chill. But @battra knew that already.

I also spelled Louis wrong too, so there's that...

 

[JMCx4]

I also spelled Louis wrong too, so there's that...

So you might've been right after all. Well played.

 

[Barclay Donaldson]

FPHL officially in Frasier, Michigan for this upcoming season.
Fraser, Michigan Official as FPHL's 10th City

 

[mk80]

I wonder if the SPHL or FPHL brand of hockey would do well in suburban STL.

Are they a bit fighty?

If you're thinking about the Family Arena, no chance!

They told the group I was working with earlier this summer, they have no desire to have ice hockey in the building as a full time tenant.

That being said, SPHL and FPHL wouldn't go over well anyway in this area. The Chill were a disaster and are a low bar for hockey in this area. For example I never heard back them about doing an internship and working for free! Part of why they failed however is people were willing to pay $25 for nosebleed Blues tickets, than $25 for glass seats at Chill games.

 

[hurricanesfan123]

FPHL officially in Frasier, Michigan for this upcoming season.
Fraser, Michigan Official as FPHL's 10th City

i predict 3 seasons before folding

 

[Barclay Donaldson]

i predict 3 seasons before folding

I am giving them less than a season. Same person in charge of Battle Creek, same level of marketing and investment, same old story. They can put together a 10th team and not burn a market at the same time.

 

[GindyDraws]

I am giving them less than a season. Same person in charge of Battle Creek, same level of marketing and investment, same old story. They can put together a 10th team and not burn a market at the same time.

I mean, hooray for him getting another chance, but it's not like the league is going to give him any advantages just like they didn't for Battle Creek. They're a headcount team, so expect them to be as terrible.

 

[Barclay Donaldson]

I mean, hooray for him getting another chance, but it's not like the league is going to give him any advantages just like they didn't for Battle Creek. They're a headcount team, so expect them to be as terrible.

All they need to do to be considered a success is to have better jerseys and a better arena than Battle Creek. They already easily have the arena part accomplished. As long as the FPHL Frasier jerseys don't have overalls/suspenders displayed on one's jersey, it will accomplish this as well.

 

[mk80]

I wish so hard and so long they'd put a minor league team in the Chaf.

I know they never, ever will.

But with the changes in the Vet Rules and all that business, I think the Family Arena won't be home to hockey any time soon, which makes me sad.

There's so much wrong with St. Charles and I don't wanna get into any of it, but you know what I'm talking about.

I just think with Chase, Twist, Low, and Janssen all still living in town, if there was a fighty league, having them be the faces of the franchise and it could be a success.

But I think I've been spending too much time in the past and wishing we could put the tooth paste back in the tube.

None of that rock 'em-sock 'em action you long for, but Lindenwood hockey - both men's & women's programs - are physical & very entertaining (presuming they will resume play in the fall). And social distancing @ CCIC for those games is as easy as walking into USA Arena & choosing your seat from among the 2500 available.

Family Arena under it's current management will never host a full time hockey tenant, they're open to having ice for events like when Lindenwood hosted the Women's Frozen Four a few years ago, but as a tenant they have no interest in putting down ice.

I will second @JMCx4's suggestion in that Lindenwood men's and women's are both very good product. Men's games are often quite chippy, and physical especially on the 2nd game of a series. Also the more butts in the seats at Centene the better it looks to the university higher ups.

 

[hurricanesfan123]

I am giving them less than a season. Same person in charge of Battle Creek, same level of marketing and investment, same old story. They can put together a 10th team and not burn a market at the same time.

the mechanics )who i believed played in the same arena )in the uhl had around 1600 attendance maybe the hockey market will be better in faster with fans who missed pro hockey
to be fair i expected battle creek to fail to close to Kalamazoo and fphl hockey can never be branded above the echl

 

[JMCx4]

FPHL officially in Frasier, Michigan for this upcoming season.
Fraser, Michigan Official as FPHL's 10th City

So the St. Clair Shores Fighting Saints finally found their way back from Kingsville, ON? The bonus for fans of the "new" Fraser team is that Hockeyland offers a livestream service, so they can watch the team's last game in the comfort of their heated well-insulated homes.

 

[extra skater]

i predict 3 seasons before folding

I join the pool.
My bet is one season.

 

[JMCx4]

I join the pool.
My bet is one season.

The St. Clair Shores club lasted 55 games, and their North Shore offspring made it through 44. So I'd lay even odds of the 3rd-gen Fraser HC making it into their second FPHL season, before the desperate remainder of their roster have to don the League's thread-bare "Federals" jerseys & adopt the traveling team lifestyle.

 

[jabberoski]

FPHL officially in Frasier, Michigan for this upcoming season.
Fraser, Michigan Official as FPHL's 10th City

I know maybe I'm setting the bar high since this is the FPHL and all, but that press release is something. Was it written by a fifth grader?

 

[JMCx4]

I know maybe I'm setting the bar high since this is the FPHL and all, but that press release is something. Was it written by a fifth grader?

Adam Stio is a one-man show for Fraser HC: General Manager, Team President, Media Coordinator/Chief Scribe. If the club owned the rink, he'd be operating the Zamboni between filling boxes of popcorn at the concession stand.

 

[Barclay Donaldson]

I know maybe I'm setting the bar high since this is the FPHL and all, but that press release is something. Was it written by a fifth grader?

Yes but this is not as <<catchy>> as "Are You Smarter Than a FPHL's Media And Content Writer."

 

[JMCx4]

Yes but this is not as <<catchy>> as "Are You Smarter Than a FPHL's Media And Content Writer."

Just so we're clear, that wasn't a League office release. That was straight from the horse's ... mouth ...

 

[mk80]

Adam Stio is a one-man show for Fraser HC: General Manager, Team President, Media Coordinator/Chief Scribe. If the club owned the rink, he'd be operating the Zamboni between filling boxes of popcorn at the concession stand.

So he runs the operations similar to how the league has a large portion of it's teams owned by one person

 

[JMCx4]

So he runs the operations similar to how the league has a large portion of it's teams owned by one person

Let's recognize that The Barry Soskin League isn't the only one that has had a multi-team owner in North American pro hockey. Horn Chen started the Central in 1992 as the owner of 6 teams, and owned up to 8 of them in the subsequent half-dozen seasons with relative business success. So while I'm not a huge supporter of TBSL, there are situations where that sort of monopoly is warranted and/or necessary.

 

[extra skater]

The St. Clair Shores club lasted 55 games, and their North Shore offspring made it through 44. So I'd lay even odds of the 3rd-gen Fraser HC making it into their second FPHL season, before the desperate remainder of their roster have to don the League's thread-bare "Federals" jerseys & adopt the traveling team lifestyle.

What are the odds of turning into a touring team like Bluefins before folding?

 

[CrazyEddie20]

Let's recognize that The Barry Soskin League isn't the only one that has had a multi-team owner in North American pro hockey. Horn Chen started the Central in 1992 as the owner of 6 teams, and owned up to 8 of them in the subsequent half-dozen seasons with relative business success. So while I'm not a huge supporter of TBSL, there are situations where that sort of monopoly is warranted and/or necessary.

Of course, Chen started with enough capital to actually run a functional organization.

Similarly, Rick Adams owned three different teams (Johnstown, Texas, Long Beach) in the ECHL. They always struggled, but they survived, for a while at least.