Value of: Four Penguins Moves (CAR, MTL, OTT, TOR.)

[iFishyHD]

Trades:

Patric Hornqvist to CAR for Hadyn Fleury (RFA rights)

Olli Maatta to MON for Artturi Lehkonen (RFA rights)

Jack Johnson + Penguins 2020 1st Round Pick to OTT for OTT 2020 6th round pick

Tristan Jarry to TOR for Connor Brown

Leaves Penguins with $14,450,000M in cap space with a lineup of

Guentzel-Crosby-Brown
McCann-Malkin-Kessel
Lehkonen-Bjustad-Rust
Simon-X (Blueger)-X (ZAR)

Dumoulin-Letang
X (Pettersson)-Schultz
X (Fleury)-Gudbranson
X (Riikola)

Murray
DeSmith

Sign the RFAs to plug the Xs, and we should still have around say, 5M in cap space we could use for a forward and bump ZAR/Simon to the bench.

Notable RFAs include Aston-Reese, Teddy Blueger, Adam Johnson, Artturi Lehkonen, Marcus Pettersson, Russo Riikola, and Hadyn Fleury.

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[Kotkaniemi15]

No thanks on the Lehkonen/Maata swap but I would be interested in a cap dump trade like the one with Ottawa

 

[iFishyHD]

No thanks on the Lehkonen/Maata swap but I would be interested in a cap dump trade like the one with Ottawa

Maatta certainly has some value on the market, he won't be a cap dump. Penguins don't really have too many more assets to be ridding away of any other bad contracts.

 

[habsterr]

No thanks on the Lehkonen/Maata swap but I would be interested in a cap dump trade like the one with Ottawa

Straight up, the trade seems like a win for Montreal.

 

[HOPE]

Maatta certainly has some value on the market, he won't be a cap dump. Penguins don't really have too many more assets to be ridding away of any other bad contracts.

he no means he would do the cap dumb trade you did for ottawa but with Montreal.

 

[HOPE]

Straight up, the trade seems like a win for Montreal.

maatta is not very good...

 

[Chan790]

I don't think Hornqvist brings anything to the Canes they don't have internally.

Rather keep Haydn Fleury.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Trades:

Patric Hornqvist to CAR for Hadyn Fleury (RFA rights)

Olli Maatta to MON for Artturi Lehkonen (RFA rights)

Jack Johnson + Penguins 2020 1st Round Pick to OTT for OTT 2020 6th round pick

Tristan Jarry to TOR for Connor Brown

Leaves Penguins with $14,450,000M in cap space with a lineup of

Guentzel-Crosby-Brown
McCann-Malkin-Kessel
Lehkonen-Bjustad-Rust
Simon-X (Blueger)-X (ZAR)

Dumoulin-Letang
X (Pettersson)-Schultz
X (Fleury)-Gudbranson
X (Riikola)

Murray
DeSmith

Sign the RFAs to plug the Xs, and we should still have around say, 5M in cap space we could use for a forward and bump ZAR/Simon to the bench.

Notable RFAs include Aston-Reese, Teddy Blueger, Adam Johnson, Artturi Lehkonen, Marcus Pettersson, Russo Riikola, and Hadyn Fleury.

1) Canes, a budget team, likely isn't taking on that much salary for Hornqvist, who has had injuries the last 3 years, will be 33 in January, for 4 more years.
2) Hornqvist has a NTC (I believe a full NTC until 2021 where it becomes modified, no?)
3) Canes aren't likely to help out a division rival get out of their problems.

Don't get me wrong, I don't think Fleury has more value, just that given the rest of the stuff, I don't see the Canes doing it.

 

[HuGo Sham]

Trades:

Patric Hornqvist to CAR for Hadyn Fleury (RFA rights)

Olli Maatta to MON for Artturi Lehkonen (RFA rights)

Jack Johnson + Penguins 2020 1st Round Pick to OTT for OTT 2020 6th round pick

Tristan Jarry to TOR for Connor Brown

Leaves Penguins with $14,450,000M in cap space with a lineup of

Guentzel-Crosby-Brown
McCann-Malkin-Kessel
Lehkonen-Bjustad-Rust
Simon-X (Blueger)-X (ZAR)

Dumoulin-Letang
X (Pettersson)-Schultz
X (Fleury)-Gudbranson
X (Riikola)

Murray
DeSmith

Sign the RFAs to plug the Xs, and we should still have around say, 5M in cap space we could use for a forward and bump ZAR/Simon to the bench.

Notable RFAs include Aston-Reese, Teddy Blueger, Adam Johnson, Artturi Lehkonen, Marcus Pettersson, Russo Riikola, and Hadyn Fleury.

 

[HuGo Sham]

Trades:

Patric Hornqvist to CAR for Hadyn Fleury (RFA rights)

Olli Maatta to MON for Artturi Lehkonen (RFA rights)

Jack Johnson + Penguins 2020 1st Round Pick to OTT for OTT 2020 6th round pick

Tristan Jarry to TOR for Connor Brown

Leaves Penguins with $14,450,000M in cap space with a lineup of

Guentzel-Crosby-Brown
McCann-Malkin-Kessel
Lehkonen-Bjustad-Rust
Simon-X (Blueger)-X (ZAR)

Dumoulin-Letang
X (Pettersson)-Schultz
X (Fleury)-Gudbranson
X (Riikola)

Murray
DeSmith

Sign the RFAs to plug the Xs, and we should still have around say, 5M in cap space we could use for a forward and bump ZAR/Simon to the bench.

Notable RFAs include Aston-Reese, Teddy Blueger, Adam Johnson, Artturi Lehkonen, Marcus Pettersson, Russo Riikola, and Hadyn Fleury.

bergevin and julien love lehkonen, that's why he played 1/3 of the year with domi. this proposal wouldn't move needle enough for habs to do it

 

[Sen sational]

Ottawa already has a group of very promising LD, Chabot, Brannstrom, Wolanin, and Lajoie. Taking Johnson for 4 years wouldn’t be beneficial.

 

[SpezDispenser]

Ottawa already has a group of very promising LD, Chabot, Brannstrom, Wolanin, and Lajoie. Taking Johnson for 4 years wouldn’t be beneficial.

You're getting a 1st though. We're going nowhere next year, so that doesn't matter, the year after...is admittedly a problem. So enticing with a 1st attached...

 

[SpezDispenser]

1.How bad does JJ suck.

2.Can the guy play the right side - and if the answer to 1. is that he sucks very badly, would moving him to the right side theoretically make him worse? Could it make him worse?

 

[Sen sational]

1.How bad does JJ suck.

2.Can the guy play the right side - and if the answer to 1. is that he sucks very badly, would moving him to the right side theoretically make him worse? Could it make him worse?

He is 32 and signed to 4more years at $3 million. If u could be guaranteed to be able to move him at the TDL, then ok. Yes the 1st is intriguing.

 

[justafan22]

Jarry for Brown works.

 

[Captain Mountain]

Hard no on the Montreal one. Zero interest in D that can't skate well.

I'm not a big fan of Haydn Fleury, so I don't think that trade is good for Pittsburgh.

I think eating Jack Johnson's contract for another 4 years might be worth more than a first, but the bigger issue is that Ottawa is taking on a lot of real money without any going the other way, which is probably a no go for Melnyk.

Jarry for Brown seems fine.

 

[SpezDispenser]

He is 32 and signed to 4more years at $3 million. If u could be guaranteed to be able to move him at the TDL, then ok. Yes the 1st is intriguing.

Which trade deadline...lol

 

[Patagonia]

The only trade that could work is Jarry to the Leafs. I can’t see the other teams willingness to take on such a large Cap Dump.

 

[koyvoo]

Maatta certainly has some value on the market, he won't be a cap dump. Penguins don't really have too many more assets to be ridding away of any other bad contracts.

Didn’t Maatta win a recent poll on the penguins board for the teams worst defenseman, and wasn’t he scratched from a weak blue line for the most important games of the season?

 

[Empoleon8771]

The Montreal deal is reasonable. The Carolina deal is kinda crappy, but not horrendous. That Ottawa deal is downright horrendous, dear lord no. I'd sooner buy out Johnson if the Penguins were dead set on getting rid of him, that's an insane price to pay to get rid of Johnson. Toronto wouldn't do that last deal.

 

[Empoleon8771]

Didn’t Maatta win a recent poll on the penguins board for the teams worst defenseman,

I believe that poll was interpreted as worse relative to expectations. That's why Maatta won the poll. It's also pretty faulty to take the hivemind of what HFBoards thinks as realistic when it comes to player evaluation.

and wasn’t he scratched from a weak blue line for the most important games of the season?

The Penguins aren't weak on top-4 LD with Dumoulin and Pettersson and Sullivan loves Johnson. It's not hard to figure out why Maatta was scratched, he just didn't have a spot. With that being said, he did have a horrendous game 1.

 

[Kotkaniemi15]

Maatta certainly has some value on the market, he won't be a cap dump. Penguins don't really have too many more assets to be ridding away of any other bad contracts.

I'm talking about Jack Johnson when I say a cap dump trade

 

[YP44]

Switch Ottawa with LA and think King's fan would do it.

 

[justafan22]

The Montreal deal is reasonable. The Carolina deal is kinda crappy, but not horrendous. That Ottawa deal is downright horrendous, dear lord no. I'd sooner buy out Johnson if the Penguins were dead set on getting rid of him, that's an insane price to pay to get rid of Johnson. Toronto wouldn't do that last deal.

Jarry's better than sparks and cheaper.

It saves the Leafs a million

 

[Big McLargehuge]

Didn’t Maatta win a recent poll on the penguins board for the teams worst defenseman, and wasn’t he scratched from a weak blue line for the most important games of the season?

He's an atrocious fit for the system the Penguins play and the team outright needs to move him because it's become a bad situation for both sides. Määttä has been an awkward fit with Sullivan's system from the start, but it kept working somehow those first couple years...but now that the team has too many defensemen making similar money it just makes too much sense not to trade the awkward fit.

I still think Olli Määttä is a solid #4 as long as he's not in a system based on the breakout. When the play is in front of him he's generally very good...but the Pens system is heavy on defensemen pinching, which can result in footraces that he just can't win.

He also was coming back from an injury right before the playoffs started, which certainly didn't help things.

Määttä strikes me as one of those guys that GMs and coaches value significantly higher than fans do. The good stuff in his game is generally pretty simple and unappreciated in its banality, but his negatives have a tendency to get him on the wrong side of highlight reel plays. He certainly won't fetch anything major in a trade, but he also definitely isn't a dump.