Former NHL'er Andre Deveaux assaults player during warmups in Sweden

[HFBS]

His defense will be that he suddenly realized he dropped his wallet on that spot before they resurfaced the ice.

 

[firewagonHOCKEY]

wow.
He forgot to cry FORE!

 

[Ser Jorah Mormont]

If I owned a tree felling company I'd hire him on the spot.

 

[Pilky01]

I love his arrogance after the attack, "I'll think about him when i'm celebrating with my teammates"....and now he has no teammates.

What an *******. So glad they charged him. That kind of disgusting attack, taking place at least ten minutes BEFORE the game even begins, needs to set a precedent.

 

[LiveeviL]

Now he got a defender, one if not the most high profile Defense Attorneys in Sweden, Leif Silbersky http://www.dn.se/sport/ishockey/silbersky-forsvarar-deveaux/.

Known for defending all type of criminals with media presence (and people being acquitted too), from porn kings, murderers, rapists, white collar criminals and Julian Assange.

 

[Vikke]

I think it's good that Silbersky gets the case, since this one will, if it actually goes to court, set precedents for years to come.

 

[Pilky01]

How does he have the money for that kind of lawyer?

 

[LiveeviL]

How does he have the money for that kind of lawyer?

It is tax payers money, you don't pay for your public defender and you can actually get hot-shots to defend you in Sweden with public money. It is kind of egalitarian but also a bit expensive and questionable at times.

Deveaux can at least be sure that his case will be known now.

 

[68*]

Sweden lol. No offense.

 

[Thunderhead]

Because officials didn't see this pregame attack, Deveaux actually played in the game and in Sunday's game as well. The videotape of the attack didn't surface until a few days later. Deveaux has since been released from his team and local prosecutors are deciding whether assault charges should be filed.

http://es.redskins.com/topic/387956-ex-nhl-player-assaults-opponent-during-warm-ups/

 

[wej20]

It is tax payers money, you don't pay for your public defender and you can actually get hot-shots to defend you in Sweden with public money. It is kind of egalitarian but also a bit expensive and questionable at times.

Deveaux can at least be sure that his case will be known now.

How do they decide who gets which public defender?

 

[Thunderhead]

(Reuters) - Swedish prosecutors have issued a warrant for the arrest of Canadian former NHL player Andre Deveaux after he attacked an opponent on-ice before a promotion playoff, the TT news agency reported on Tuesday.
The prosecutors acted after reviewing video footage of Deveaux, who has played for the Toronto Maple Leafs and New York Rangers, rushing at Per Helmersson from behind during the warmup and hitting him in the back of the leg with his stick before clubbing him to the ice.
The attack in last week's match sparked an outcry in Sweden and has been described as the worst in the history of the domestic league, although Helmersson was able to play on.

http://www.reuters.c...N0MR20N20150331

 

[svartgul]

How do they decide who gets which public defender?

Who's "they"? You mean Deveax? I guess that Silbersky wanted the case.

Oh, i see now you weren't just talking about this specific case. I figure it works like it would in the US or similar systems, just remove the money from the equation.

 

[LiveeviL]

Who's "they"? You mean Deveax? I guess that Silbersky wanted the case.

Oh, i see now you weren't just talking about this specific case. I figure it works like it would in the US or similar systems, just remove the money from the equation.

Yes and Silbersky for example can pick his cases, so it is the attorney's market. There are others who are much more profiled on defending organised crime for example. If you got no reputation you will get the left-overs.

 

[bottomofthefoodchain]

Silbersky is such a media *****
I think he cares more about showing his face in the media than actually winning cases.

 

[Jeremy2020]

eh, that *might* be 2 mins...max. he obviously wasn't aiming for the guy and it was just bad luck his stick ended up there.

 

[Gormo]

Now he got a defender, one if not the most high profile Defense Attorneys in Sweden, Leif Silbersky http://www.dn.se/sport/ishockey/silbersky-forsvarar-deveaux/.

Known for defending all type of criminals with media presence (and people being acquitted too), from porn kings, murderers, rapists, white collar criminals and Julian Assange.

Lol?

What is he going to say, that some other guy did it?

 

[LiveeviL]

Lol?

What is he going to say, that some other guy did it?

Yeah, it was Julian Assange! j/k.

Well who knows, usual law guy routines I guess: blame other (own coach); no intent to arm (aimed for not the skate but the ice); the victim had verbally assaulted the perpetrator; perhaps repeatedly; home conditions; brain-damaged by playing hockey; etc; etc.

 

[Pilky01]

Who's "they"? You mean Deveax? I guess that Silbersky wanted the case.

Oh, i see now you weren't just talking about this specific case. I figure it works like it would in the US or similar systems, just remove the money from the equation.

No, this sounds like a VERY different system.

I suppose in some ways it is good that "access to justice" isn't limited by your income (i.e. rich guy can hire Johnny Cochrane and poor-ass gets Lionel Hutz), but on the other hand it doesn't feel right that a government bureaucracy can exercise control over your legal representation (or maybe they can't, obviously I don't know **** about it).

**** this stupid case, now I just wanna know about the Swedish judicial system.

 

[vintguy]

He lost it, suspension for sure.

 

[mjlee]

No, this sounds like a VERY different system.

I suppose in some ways it is good that "access to justice" isn't limited by your income (i.e. rich guy can hire Johnny Cochrane and poor-ass gets Lionel Hutz), but on the other hand it doesn't feel right that a government bureaucracy can exercise control over your legal representation (or maybe they can't, obviously I don't know **** about it).

**** this stupid case, now I just wanna know about the Swedish judicial system.

The basic idea is that neither finances nor social standing should have any impact on the quality of defense. So there is no such thing as a private defense lawyer - except in civil cases and I believe libel cases. Every defense attorney is paid by the state and their state regulated fee is exactly the same, regardless if you are Leif Silbersky or a no name first year lawyer just graduated from law school. And no, you cannot privately hire someone to defend you in a criminal case. Good attorneys can pick and chose their cases as another poster said, but yeah, in extreme cases you end up with very good defense lawyers for drug kingpins and organized crime costing tax payers a lot of money.

 

[agent082]

If finnish media are right, he got 11 month suspension and 2700€ fine

 

[FishMonger]

If finnish media are right, he got 11 month suspension and 2700€ fine

What an odd number... any reason or significance for 11 months?

 

[Brie]

If finnish media are right, he got 11 month suspension and 2700€ fine

It's correct:

Ruling in this case came today and Deveaux have been suspended 11 month (from March 30 2015 – February 15 2016).

It has been the most talked about event in the Swedish ice hockey in a long time.

During the heating for the fourth qualifying match between Rögle and Västerås stabbed Andre Deveaux down Per Helmersson from behind. As there were no photographic evidence from the incident could Deveaux play the fifth and deciding game in Västerås.
Rögle broke co

But in the middle of the game in ABB Arena came out pictures that clearly showed what the great Canadian had done.

The day after promotion to the SHL was secured chose Rögle to immediately break off cooperation with Deveaux.

- We as a club condemn the incident. It is an unacceptable behavior on their own and nothing we as a club behind. The actions are not penalized in any way, said Chairman HÃ¥kan Eriksson.
Far meeting

When the pictures became public was also reported Deveaux the Disciplinary Committee. And after a long meeting today came under appeal.

Rögle The forward banned from March 30, 2015 to February 15, 2016. Because the sentence is longer than one month, no part converted into a fine. That means the maximum penalty ever in Swedish elitishockey.

The then Modo slope Jan-Axel Alavaara was closed in 1998 by eight months and a total of 22 games following his attack on Judge Thomas Andersson.

Andre Deveaux also risks faced civil court. On March 31, he was arrested in absentia of cams prosecutor in Helsingborg, he is currently in Canada.
Rögle may also fined 25,000 for failing to comply with the rules that are warming the ice before the game. "Among other things, the association's players remained on the opponent's court and behaved inappropriately," writes Discplinnämnden.

So writes Disciplinary Committee


The Disciplinary Committee's jurisdiction falls events that occur in connection with sports activities. That the actual event occurred during the heating does not mean that the Board can not consider the issue.


The film sequence provides support for the information in the notification, and thus it is undisputed that Andre Deveaux has been guilty of it as described in the notification.


The Board takes very seriously the incident. Andre Deveaux, according to the Board of fallen Per Helmersson from behind and Per Helmersson have not had any opportunity to protect himself. Andre Deveaux has been distributed under these circumstances, excessive force with the club against Per Helmersson not only against the legs / feet but also against the back / neck. Andre Deveaux argues that the club met Per Helmer's skates. Even if this were the case alters not the Tribunal's assessment of the event. It may completely irrespective considered to be fortunate that no serious damage not occurred. That the event takes place completely unprovoked during heating is according to the Board of very aggravating when not occur near any game situation or direct provocation that can somehow mitigate the incident. An event that happened in the game before, several days earlier, does not constitute a mitigating factor in the Tribunal's assessment. The incident has nothing to do with hockey and is of course completely unacceptable. The Board believes that Andre Deveaux can not fail to be imposed on a tactile shutdown that should cover most of the next season.

http://www.aftonbladet.se/sportbladet/hockey/sverige/shl/rogle/article20562222.ab

I used google translate so it’s not great but hopefully you can still understand it if you’re interested in how this went.

 

[Atas2000]

The basic idea is that neither finances nor social standing should have any impact on the quality of defense. So there is no such thing as a private defense lawyer - except in civil cases and I believe libel cases. Every defense attorney is paid by the state and their state regulated fee is exactly the same, regardless if you are Leif Silbersky or a no name first year lawyer just graduated from law school. And no, you cannot privately hire someone to defend you in a criminal case. Good attorneys can pick and chose their cases as another poster said, but yeah, in extreme cases you end up with very good defense lawyers for drug kingpins and organized crime costing tax payers a lot of money.

Yep, they often call Sweden the most socialist european country for a reason. I actually like it and find it quite funny how weird it seems to North Americans.