Very well putI might be alone in this, but I think Bieksa can keep up just fine.
My issue with him is that he still tries to play like he's the same player he was when he was younger. I actually think he could be a pretty solid 3rd pairing defenseman, if he was willing to simplify his game, play more conservatively, and just stop playing like an ******* in a pick up game. That's my real beef with him. It was the same issue I had with Sbisa before he was shipped out. Bieksa plays like he thinks he's the best player on the ice, and he can get away with it. He never really plays with urgency, and even when he ****s up he kind of casually glides back to where he needs to go.
Bieksa was twice the player someone like DiPenta was, but I'd rather have DiPenta on the ice because at least he understood his limitations and tried to play to the role that he neede to. If Bieksa did that, I think we would have had a pretty solid 3rd pairing guy. An overpaid one, sure, but that's on Murray.
It's all kind of irrelevant, because Bieksa wasn't willing to play within his limitations. That's on him.
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Sbisa earned a 1 year deal with the Isles after attending camp on a PTO.
Apparently we may see Etem sign with the Kings, has been having a very strong showing in camp.
Apparently we may see Etem sign with the Kings, has been having a very strong showing in camp.
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f*** that is a lot for someone with no leverage who hasn’t proven a huge amount. That’s basically Hampus money. Vegas got jobbed.
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Yeah makes me feel less bad about losing him. No chance we could've afforded that.
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They better hope he learns how to play D. That kind of term and AAV for a one-dimensional player doesn’t look good at present time.
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I don’t think it’s as outrageous for Vegas as you all think. He’s a 40 point guy and expected to improve. If you are using Hampus as the bar, then yeah, overpayment. But Hampus is underpaid
I think it’s a gamble but fair for both parties.
I think it’s a gamble but fair for both parties.
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He might be a 40 point guy but he’s not there yet. And he is pretty bad in his own end, on the defensive side of the puck he skates and checks like he doesn’t give a f***.
Hampus, Slavin, Jones, Rielly etc all got similar amounts (admittedly for less years but still) and are all twice the dman Theodore is.
Wow that`s a lot for a specifically offensive defenseman that has yet to crach 30 point barrier and started last season in the AHL.
But he was getting better as the year went on, was 0.5 ppg in playoffs and only just turned 23. It`s a bit of a crazy contract but I think Shea will also progress and this all wont be as bad after all.
But he was getting better as the year went on, was 0.5 ppg in playoffs and only just turned 23. It`s a bit of a crazy contract but I think Shea will also progress and this all wont be as bad after all.
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It’s all projections. He’s not on the level of those guys now, maybe he never will be, but Vegas is betting on his potential. It’s a gamble that might end up bad for sure.
I personally think even if he doesn’t improve on last year he is pretty damn close to being worth that. Like, he was probably worth 4-4.5 on the open market with last years performance.Remember, They’re buying out a lot of UFA years with that contract, which is valuable. In 4 years he could be worth 7-8 on the open market but Vegas won’t have to worry about paying that or him walking
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But he wasn't on the open market. Vegas has crap for D and money to burn, so I think this is a bit of a panic signing by them. Could work out as you describe in the absolute best case scenario for them, which is usually the worst bargaining position to take.
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Well I agree but they are buying out a few UFA years in which he would have been on the open market. So the last 3 years could be a steal potentially
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They should have given him a bridge, but for some reason the Knights are in love with him even though he is soft and doesn't understand defensive zone coverage.
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Or, given his very limited track record, it's equally likely that they'll be paying 5.2 per year to Andy Delmore. I'm just saying, this contract sounds very much like it was close to whatever Theodore's opening offer was. He had no leverage and not all that much substance, and yet. What you're arguing is not untrue, it just shouldn't have gotten him 5.2 per year at this point.
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Unfortunately, he's a hockey player that's worse than 99% of the league, these days.
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He could be the veteran guy with “character” who interviews Melnyk next year after they lose Stone and Duchene for pennies on the dollar.
Say what you want about him but he`s still funny
I didn`t like how he was ''offended'' by us not resigning him or whatever was the case there, tho
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