Former Canucks Thread (Dan Hamhuis retires)
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Yep, he's a real good centre. Traded him away for f***ing Gudbranson. Just an awfully one sided trade...
I wonder what truly happened between McCann and management that got the media stirred up back then
One sided trade? There's a lot of players involved here, but what exactly did Florida end up with? But yes in hindsight that was not a good trade.
In foresight it also wasn’t a good trade. Hindsight lol.
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In hindsight is it even worse than I originally thought it was.
When you in a well coached system you can drop most guys into the lineup and get some safe minutes out of them. If the team is coached by Green or Desjardins on the other hand.....yikes.
I don’t disagree with the theme of your post, but time flies and Kassian is now a 28 year old in his 9th NHL season.
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True, but power forwards generally take longer to develop. With Kassian in particular, given his maturity issues earlier in his career, I believe his prime will be this season until he's like 32/33. He's just starting to hit his stride this year.
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It was never really clear if the trade was Benning cutting ties with Kassian or Benning wanting Brandon Prust and Kassian was who Montreal asked for. From the reports we had Willie was having issue with Kassian in like December/January but that had appeared to clear up by the end of the season, and the trade really came out of nowhere.
Personally I always just figured Benning thought Prust+Dorsett would make the bestest 4th line.
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I don't really buy it but the gossip with Kesler is one of hockey's most common rumors when a player is unexpectedly traded. Think Jeff Brown and Kirk McLean.
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This. And it def was NOT hinesight like FAN is saying. It was quite clearly a blowout trade when it happend
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Unless i'm completely forgetting something, that has to be the strongest candidate for Benning's worst trade.
Usually when someone is saying it's a lopsided trade years after it happened that person is looking at the trade in hindsight.
But even without hindsight, I don't think that was your view at the time of the trade at least neither of you expressed that. Not liking the trade at the time is not equivalent to thinking it was a lopsided trade. But in reality, very few trades are considered lopsided trades at the time it was made.
The Gudbranson for Pearson trade is looking pretty good after tonight's game against the Oilers.
Right so my point is that this whole business of "Benning cutting ties with Kassian is not a good luck on the organization" is just BS. There were plenty of reasons for trading Kassian. Take Jake Virtanen, if he spent this season playing mostly on the 3rd and 4th line and putting up 10 goals and 20 points in his Shotgun Jake fashion and Benning trades him in the summer is that unreasonable? Virtanen this season is basically in a similar position to what Kassian was in his last season here.
What wasn't a good look was Bergevin chewing Kassian out in public and cutting Kassian as soon as he could.
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Ah, the "wait and see" and "hindsight is 20/20" loop strikes again
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Usually when someone is saying it's a lopsided trade years after it happened that person is looking at the trade in hindsight.
But even without hindsight, I don't think that was your view at the time of the trade at least neither of you expressed that. Not liking the trade at the time is not equivalent to thinking it was a lopsided trade. But in reality, very few trades are considered lopsided trades at the time it was made.
The Gudbranson for Pearson trade is looking pretty good after tonight's game against the Oilers.
literally the first reply in the trade thread was “bahahhahahahhhahaahhahaahah.”
Either the second or third was along the lines of “what a horrible trade.”
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Read the thread then. Almost everyone against the trade saying we were screwed. Some saying only screwed slightly and the odd poseter saying it was ok. Pretty much recognized by everyone here. And unfortunately we were all correct FANUsually when someone is saying it's a lopsided trade years after it happened that person is looking at the trade in hindsight.
But even without hindsight, I don't think that was your view at the time of the trade at least neither of you expressed that. Not liking the trade at the time is not equivalent to thinking it was a lopsided trade. But in reality, very few trades are considered lopsided trades at the time it was made.
The Gudbranson for Pearson trade is looking pretty good after tonight's game against the Oilers.
TSN: - [VAN/FLA] Canucks acquire D Erik Gudbranson, 2016 5th for McCann, 2016 2nd, 2016 4th
Including myself tho i went overboard haha
TSN: - [VAN/FLA] Canucks acquire D Erik Gudbranson, 2016 5th for McCann, 2016 2nd, 2016 4th
TSN: - [VAN/FLA] Canucks acquire D Erik Gudbranson, 2016 5th for McCann, 2016 2nd, 2016 4th
If i were you I would have checked out this old thread before yelling 'hinesight' at all of us
Youve been M2B'd......
Jimbo will probably never go down in history as the Canucks GM who made the worst trade. That honor will always belong to the Cam Neely-Barrie Pederson trade with Boston.
But you'd have to say that the Gudbranson trade is 'right up there' as being one of the worst. And of course nobody will ever come close to matching the Louie Eriksson signing.....the worst UFA signing in team history. Bar none.
But you'd have to say that the Gudbranson trade is 'right up there' as being one of the worst. And of course nobody will ever come close to matching the Louie Eriksson signing.....the worst UFA signing in team history. Bar none.
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**** McCann.
Even if the trade just consisted of trading that other asset we gave in that transaction (very high 2nd round pick), the trade would be still dog****. That's how bad it was.
Taking in Gudbranson at any value is basically negative value
I wouldnt trade a 7th round pick for him. Hell even if they added a 5th just to take him I wouldnt do it
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