Former Canucks: Players & Management (Willie Desjardins fired by Kings, COO Victor De Bonis to SEA)

[Pip]

Bonino as well. Maybe not the regular season but he had a fantastic playoff run

 

[Hit the post]

Torts won the Jack Adams after getting fired by the Canucks.

 

[Icebreakers]

Schneider (more games played, on a much worse roster), Weise, Grabner, Hodgson (that one season in Buffalo which got him his big contract), Miller, and Schroeder.

Grabner and Weiss I'd give you. I think Schneider didn't play better, he played just as good. Miller's prime was obviously in buffalo. Schroeder is an AHL player so how much did he actually improve. And Hodgson was amazing as a Canuck he just got no ice time.

 

[Frankie Blueberries]

Grabner and Weiss I'd give you. I think Schneider didn't play better, he played just as good. Miller's prime was obviously in buffalo. Schroeder is an AHL player so how much did he actually improve. And Hodgson was amazing as a Canuck he just got no ice time.

That's fair, but he had a bigger sample size with NJ which is more impressive to me. He also was getting serious consideration for the Vezina, which he never had in Vancouver due to the Luongo situation.

Miller put up a better save % and GAA with Anaheim, albeit on a better team and with less starts.

Schroeder is fair, he's about equal but has played more games. 13 points in 37 games with Minnesota is better than anything he did with Vancouver, but obviously it's still nothing to write home about.

Hodgson is similar to Schneider; small sample size in Vancouver and excelled when he was given a bigger role on a worse team (at the time).

These players still had better seasons after being Canucks, IMO, which is what I was responding to.

 

[Scott Stevens]

Sbisa isn’t being signed by benning only because aquilini expressly forbade it. His friends probably made fun of him for paying that guy 3 plus mill per year.

You know damn well benning is shaking like a leaf not being able to sign Sbisa back as he just sits there available.

 

[Megaterio Llamas]

Sbisa isn’t being signed by benning only because aquilini expressly forbade it. His friends probably made fun of him for paying that guy 3 plus mill per year.

You know damn well benning is shaking like a leaf not being able to sign Sbisa back as he just sits there available.

That's an interesting angle @Sami Salo I hadn't considered the possibility of peer group humiliation as a barrier to resigning Sbisa. But it might do the trick alright.

 

[geebaan]

I mean, I remember when the usual posters here where pointing out how good Sbisa was. Single handedly made Vegas a top team in the playoffs if I recall. Its a shame how he's not signed. Makes no sense to me

 

[timw33]

I mean, I remember when the usual posters here where pointing out how good Sbisa was. Single handedly made Vegas a top team in the playoffs if I recall. Its a shame how he's not signed. Makes no sense to me

Yeah I wonder if he's having a hard time accepting the reality that he'll have to take a steep paycut to be paid what he's actually worth.

Insane that we signed him to the deal that we did after watching him for a half a year and seeing how he's no better than a bottom pairing D man.

 

[Melvin]

Brad Richardson continues to be a quality bottom sixer who can do everything Jay Beagle can do at a fraction of the price.

 

[n00bxQb]

It's a shame that Tryamkin nearly broke him in half. Took him a long time to recover and he hasn't been the same since.

 

[Josepho]

Brad Richardson continues to be a quality bottom sixer who can do everything Jay Beagle can do at a fraction of the price.

He even has that "cup winner" pedigree.

 

[Melvin]

He even has that "cup winner" pedigree.

Nick Bonino too.

 

[Megaterio Llamas]

Yeah I wonder if he's having a hard time accepting the reality that he'll have to take a steep paycut to be paid what he's actually worth.

Insane that we signed him to the deal that we did after watching him for a half a year and seeing how he's no better than a bottom pairing D man.

It's quite possibly just settled opinion around the NHL by now that he simply can't play. I mean, how much viewing is required. He's been around 8 or 9 years.

 

[Megaterio Llamas]

Meanwhile, Carl Neill has won the prestigious Guy Lafleur award at Concordia University:


Stingers Defenseman Carl Neill Wins the Guy Lafleur Award of Excellence | Sports

 

[Wo Yorfat]

Meanwhile, Carl Neill has one the prestigious Guy Lafleur award

Not two shabby

 

[F A N]

Brad Richardson continues to be a quality bottom sixer who can do everything Jay Beagle can do at a fraction of the price.

Is Richardson a right shot C who can be counted upon to win over 56% of his the faceoffs he takes? No.

Brad Richardson when healthy has generally been quite underrated. But better is better and IMO Beagle is better.

 

[Askel]

Is Richardson a right shot C who can be counted upon to win over 56% of his the faceoffs he takes? No.

Brad Richardson when healthy has generally been quite underrated. But better is better and IMO Beagle is better.

Beagle is better at Face offs. But hes not better at anything else. Also Richardsson is payed fairly and not signed for more than 2 years.

 

[Peter10]

Is Richardson a right shot C who can be counted upon to win over 56% of his the faceoffs he takes? No.

Brad Richardson when healthy has generally been quite underrated. But better is better and IMO Beagle is better.

Their career averages in faceoff wins % account for ~33 additional faceoff with Beagle wins over an 82 games season. So that is roughly one additonal faceoff win every 3 games not sure that this makes a worlds difference.

If one is interested in the individual advanced stats, that can be easily seen here:

Hockey-Reference: Brad Richardson

Hockey-Reference: Jay Beagle

Taking performance and contract into account I would still much prefer Richardson

 

[Addison Rae]

imagine creating an argument for a player on the basis of faceoffs and handedness

 

[Peter10]

imagine creating an argument for a player on the basis of faceoffs and handedness

Handedness is overrated. Eye color is the true gem when you want to judge a player. Blue eyes just dont strike fear into opponents. Imagine having an "albino" with red eyes now that would make the other team s*** their pants!

 

[racerjoe]

Handedness is overrated. Eye color is the true gem when you want to judge a player. Blue eyes just dont strike fear into opponents. Imagine having an "albino" with red eyes now that would make the other team s*** their pants!

Except for Taylor Pyatt’s eyes... but that was getting lost more than fear...

 

[Josepho]

Looks like the Hunter Shinkaruk Flames era is done.

 

[Chairman Maouth]

Looks like the Hunter Shinkaruk Flames era is done.

 

[Canadian Canuck]

Well looks like we “won” that trade. Although getting Granlund isn’t really much of a win but at least he can play in the NHL.

 

[EpochLink]

I thought Horvat and Shinkaruk were gonna be a dynamic duo.
Now its the Horvat and Boeser show going forward.

Shinkaruk development has stalled, he regressed like heck.