Forbes Magazine report on the value of NHL franchises

[Dr Love]

If you think that 680 is a joke... they do a heckkkkkkk of a better job than WGFX.. I've heard Buck and Kincade talk about the thrashers wayyyy more than anyone on WGFX unless it is the predators pre/post.

Why must every thing you say be a shot at the Predators with you? You have problems.

 

[Squiddy*]

Why must every thing you say be a shot at the Predators with you? You have problems.

Well that's the only southern team I have checked out... Carolina's flagship station doesn't have streaming capabilities and I didn't bother to check out Tampa's because they aren't recently expansios/relocation teams.

 

[triggrman]

104.5 does hockey talk in the mornings and evenings, 106.7 does some hockey talk in the evenings and during lunch, even having said that, I wish we could get more.

This guy wants to be a Nashvillian so bad it's killing him, he even listens to our radio enough to try to give an opinion about coverage.

 

[Ted Hoffman]

Well that's the only southern team I have checked out... Carolina's flagship station doesn't have streaming capabilities and I didn't bother to check out Tampa's because they aren't recently expansios/relocation teams.

Nashville is the only southern team that you've checked out? Then how do you know so much about the coverage of Thrashers hockey in Atlanta?

They don't bandwagon the Braves in the playoffs.

I still recall the last time the Cards and Braves met in the playoffs, and a lot of people from St. Louis made the 8-hour trip to Atlanta and got tickets for Game 3 because none of the games there were sold out.

 

[Dr Love]

Nashville is the only southern team that you've checked out? Then how do you know so much about the coverage of Thrashers hockey in Atlanta?

Beat me to it.

I still recall the last time the Cards and Braves met in the playoffs, and a lot of people from St. Louis made the 8-hour trip to Atlanta and got tickets for Game 3 because none of the games there were sold out.

Roughly 1/3rd of the crowd when they played the Cubs in 2003 were Cubs fans too, but there are a lot of Cub fans everywhere. The Braves draw well, but the people in Atlanta are tired of them getting to the playoffs and then not doing anything there. I can't say I can't blame them, but I understand.

 

[AdmiralPred]

At least the Braves get to the playoffs. I just suffered through 13 losing seasons in Milwaukee before FINALLY breaking even this year (and that was w/o Ben Sheets for half the season). At least it was a non-loosing season. More than can be said for Pittsburgh. Sorry Pirates fans, you have the only team I can jab at.

As far as the Forbes article goes, I have put decreasing faith in their analysis of sports franchise values as the years pass. They seem to follow a model established when they first began to publicize their figures and favor public perception rather than hard data, particularily for leagues lesser than the NFL.

That said, there are still several good sources for such data available with a few well placed Google searches.

 

[triggrman]

What I find funny is he claims to listen to our radio but says he never goes to Nashvillepredators.com. Although the same time he started posting here a poster named HoustonAeros posted on Nashville's board, using quotes from here and all he talked about was Nashville moving to Houston, then he got into a bunch of redneck cliche post and was banned.

 

[Squiddy*]

What I find funny is he claims to listen to our radio but says he never goes to Nashvillepredators.com. Although the same time he started posting here a poster named HoustonAeros posted on Nashville's board, using quotes from here and all he talked about was Nashville moving to Houston, then he got into a bunch of redneck cliche post and was banned.

WGFX can be googled too... Google search "Nashville Predators Radio Broadcast." Don't flatter yourself.

What I meant was Nashville predators are the other southern team I kept a close eye on to get a feel of the marketing etc because it was one of the teams mentioned to relocate. Atlanta was another one.

 

[triggrman]

WGFX can be googled too... Google search "Nashville Predators Radio Broadcast." Don't flatter yourself.

You got me?

 

[Squiddy*]

You got me?

You pretty much got yourself with your simple minded thinking.

 

[heywood*]

toronto must have an outstanding cable TV deal, because the canadiens are selling out every one of their games, 21K+, at very high prices.

if i'm buying, it's MTL.

 

[Fugu]

As far as the Forbes article goes, I have put decreasing faith in their analysis of sports franchise values as the years pass. They seem to follow a model established when they first began to publicize their figures and favor public perception rather than hard data, particularily for leagues lesser than the NFL.

That said, there are still several good sources for such data available with a few well placed Google searches.

However....doesn't it seem that recent Forbes estimates are on the high side? The average over the entire NHL is ~$133 million, but which teams would actually be worth this today? The most recent transaction involving the Ducks was $25-30 million below the prior year's Forbes estimate, and the Blues value will certainly take a huge hit thanks to their debt.

 

[HughJass*]

4 things I find most amusing:

1. Squiddy defends his Thrashers, but kick other Southern-team fans in the nads. Classy. We need to stick together, bro. He's banned anyway LOL
2. This thread turned into some silly Atl vs. Nashville radio war? Really?
3. That Forbes report seems a bit off. The Canes have a stake in the RBC as they do not pay to lease the building. I can't see them being the least valued franchise.
4. I love the Braves too, but I can't defend those chokers.

I'm sorry, 5 things....

5. Fans always think they really understand the economics of the game, so they feel compelled to think they understand markets they don't live in.

 

[AdmiralPred]

1. Squiddy defends his Thrashers, but kick other Southern-team fans in the nads. Classy. We need to stick together, bro. He's banned anyway LOL

Squiddy is banned?

 

[EventHorizon]

I question that NJ has the highest price to attend games. I mean, they have one of the cheapest tickets in the league. Parking isn't that expensive, and you find me a place where concession prices aren't ridiculous. As for merchandise, who the hell actually buys merchandise in an arena anyway? I don't think that should really be included.

Edit - Never mind. I just checked the numbers. I am shocked that they have the second highest average ticket cost in the league. I guess even being one of the few teams with a 20 dollar ticket isn't enough to cancel that out.