garry1221 said:
edit: one last thought before anything is said to the effect: the players SHOULDN'T have to fix what the owners did, but on the flip side, the owners SHOULDN'T have to fix what the agents have done over the years... i believe if you set the agents cut at no more than a certain $ figure then you wouldn't see half the HUGE contract demands, yeah an agent may want what's best for the player, but make no mistake about it, while he's getting the certain % out of that contract HE wants what's best for HIMSELF as well
no doubt the agents aren't in it for the players - no more so than the players are in it for the game... or the owners are in it for the fans... or even the fans in it for the love of the game!
it's all about themselves here... GMs do what they do to retain their job... agents do what they do to make the most for themselves.. the cycle goes on.
and why shouldn't it?
if I'm an agent I don't want a cap because it restricts my earning power... you say the game will suffer - let it... if I have a 20-30 yr (or whatever) window to earn as much money as I can for the rest of my life, what comes first - the game, or how comfortably my family and I can live for the rest of our lives?
same goes for the players... you think Kariya is worried that he wont' get a cheque anywhere being a hockey player?? no... his concern is about how much money he can make.
and we all do that... how many of you feel that you are already compensated well enough in the jobs you do, that you wouldn't want more?? I know that there's a huge difference between what a hockey player makes, or an agent, and what the average person makes, but in the end it's all relative.
whatever market I'm in, I will want to earn the highest possible $ out of it... if I can live well making $100K a year, I can live better making $200K a year, even though I may not deserve it, I will still want it, and if someone is willing to pay it to me, then I won't turn it down.
in the end that's what it's all about... why should the top end players worry about a salary cap... why would they care about a 30 team league?? Kariya could make twice as much in a 15 team biggest markets league than a 30 team all-over-the- map league.
I do believe that this is what it's all about in the end... notions on what's fair for everyone is a pipedream... the most financially weak teams in the league will want a level playing field - because it works best for them... the strongest teams, in the end why would they want this? similarily the best players in the league - the top 50% of the players, will want what's best for them... while cutting the league from 30 to 15 teams costs 350 jobs, the PA might not even be worried about this (since it's usually vocally dominated by those that are at the top end)... the best players will get what they want in $$, the worst will have to find work in other leagues, and make less money.
this isn't about finding perfect solutions IMO... it's about working within reality.. we aren't in an utopian society here - rather a capitalistic one, where survival of the fittest is part of real life... expecting players to give up money because it's best for the game, while it may not be best for them or their families, isn't a realistic expectation... expecting Kariya to say that "I don't deserve $10mill a year, so I wont' ask for it" is living in a dream world.... he feels he deserves it because GMs paid it.
in the end everyone here wants what's best for themselves.. that's the reality of the world we live in.
and if you believe that fans don't, you're deluded too... fans want what's best for them... that's why you'll have fans in small market teams that have no problem with a lockout because they feel there is a problem with the NHL economics, while the biggest markets aren't going to recognize that... fans want hockey and their teams to be as competitive as possible in the league, they don't care about how much players make, or what owners can walk away with - they want what's best for themselves.
to criticize a player for this same thought is stupid IMO... forget about the love of the game... forget about making it fair for everyone out there... forget about utopian notions of completely level playing fields - there are way too many parties involved that are all thinking about themselves, and will want what's best for them.
and really, who can blame them... reality is, I doubt I would be any different in any of their situations... as a player I would be looking out for me and my family above all else... I would recognize a 10-20 yr window I have to earn my living for the rest of my life, and would want the most out of it... as an agent I'd want the same thing - to get the highest % of every contract, and try and get the highest $$ in every contract, because it directly would benefit me... and of course as an owner I would again want what's best for me - to run an organization with as little left to chance as possible - where there are ceilings on how much I can spend - which leads directly to ceilings on how much I can lose... where my organization's success is as little related to how carefully I spend my $$ or how "well" I run my organization as possible.
it's always all about "me, myself and I" and every side thinks that way, in every business around the world... that's reality.. the NHL isn't run by mother theresa living on a kabuitz, it's not played by socialists and enjoyed by fans who are solely in it for the "love" of anything.