Value of: For fans of teams that need a starting goalie, would you rather trade for Bishop or Kuemper?

[Cloned]

And what would you be willing to give up for each? Is Kuemper worth more than Bishop? Or vice versa?

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[ManwithNoIdentity]

Kuemper

 

[Cloned]

Kuemper

Based on your vote, does that mean you’d be willing to “settle” for Bishop based on what you think they’d each cost in a potential trade?

 

[Khelandros]

Why is Bishop being traded? Guy got hurt and his backup is having a good run. Nill isn't the type of GM to rashly trade away his starter based on an 18 game run by the backup.

 

[ManwithNoIdentity]

Based on your vote, does that mean you’d be willing to “settle” for Bishop based on what you think they’d each cost in a potential trade?

Hmmm, maybe. Although I don’t know if Detroit would want to settle, we need a straight 1 - 2 punch in goal and from what I remember Bernier only has one year left on his contract and I doubt he re-signs here

 

[Cloned]

Why is Bishop being traded? Guy got hurt and his backup is having a good run. Nill isn't the type of GM to rashly trade away his starter based on an 18 game run by the backup.

Just going based off this:

Trade Bait: 10 contracts potentially on the move this off-season - TSN.ca

 

[KaprizovEntitlelist]

Bishop. Wild exposed Kuemper Mentally last year. During the game, Kuemper was taking trash when his team was winning, & after the wild specifically Koivu, Suter, Parise, foligno, Hartman pushed back and were essentially in his grill, he gave up 6 unanswered goal & was taken out from game

 

[Cloned]

Hmmm, maybe. Although I don’t know if Detroit would want to settle, we need a straight 1 - 2 punch in goal and from what I remember Bernier only has one year left on his contract and I doubt he re-signs here

Do you think Kuemper is significantly better than Bishop? Both of them could theoretically be your #1, it just depends who you think is better and how much each would cost.

 

[DarthProbert]

Kuemper. He makes less and plays more. You can set your watch to Bishop's spring injuries.

 

[Boomstick]

I'd rather have Kuemper than Bishop, but the rumor is a 1st for him.
I'm a Flames fan, and it looks like they need a starter.
To be honest, I think I'd take another flyer on Talbot, or I'd try to sign Hotlby over both of them. Holbty is only 31 years old, and he's had plenty of playoff experience and won a Stanley Cup. If you can lock him up for no longer than 4 years that's what I would do.
Why trade assets which look to be draft picks for either Bishop or Kuemper where you could get a goalie for free?

 

[wintersej]

Hard to get accurate reads on this until the main UFA guys are out of the picture.

 

[KevinRedkey]

Kuemper is a system goalie. He would be great on some teams and poor on others IMO.
Bishop is simply a good goalie, period.

 

[Captain Mountain]

Just going based off this:

Trade Bait: 10 contracts potentially on the move this off-season - TSN.ca

That's more of a list of contracts that teams may really want to move on from.

 

[Go Wings]

Detroit will take whichever one Dallas doesn't want. We need a goalie upgrade for sure.

 

[Djp]

Hard to get accurate reads on this until the main UFA guys are out of the picture.

Different markets...

Some teams want a short term starter of 2-3 yrs vs having to sign a UFA for 4-5. UFAs signing 1-2 yrs are more backup Goalies.

 

[BobClarkesfrontteeth]

Kuemper has more value. Lower cap hit, One less year, and 3 years younger. and has been healthy for the most part. Value is a mid round to late round 1st and a 3rd with a small+

Bishop is the more proven goalie and not a product of the teams system but his injury history depresses his value

 

[Cloned]

That's more of a list of contracts that teams may really want to move on from.

Seems like a good enough place to base some hypothetical trade/value discussions off of.

 

[Fatass]

Kuemper will help a team playing any system. Bishop needs to be in the right defensively minded system to be effective. And even then, Bishop might just be done.

 

[Cloned]

Kuemper is a system goalie. He would be great on some teams and poor on others IMO.
Bishop is simply a good goalie, period.

Kuemper will help a team playing any system. Bishop needs to be in the right defensively minded system to be effective. And even then, Bishop might just be done.

Interesting divergence of opinions here...