Yeah, either way the point is we need defense more than forwards.And that is fine. And actually, might make more sense so there there is not so much youth at C for a year.
Yeah we'd definitely have to add (and I wouldn't be opposed to that). The question is just what we would have to add to convince the Stars...probably more than what anyone here would be willing to do.This is not a bad way of looking at it, but Dallas wouldn't do a Seguin for Ghost deal.
HAVING TO DEAL WITH WATCHING FARMER GET RICH WHILE BEING THE WORST DEFENSEMAN IN THE HISTORY OF ORGANIZED SPORTS AND THE FLYERS NOT SHOOTING THAT USELESS POS INTO THE SUN AND NOT BRINGING UP MYERS RIGHT ****ING NOW IS CURRENTLY AT THE TOP OF MY "REASONS TO QUESTION /DESPISE FLYERS MANAGEMENT".
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Well consider yourself EXTREMELY lucky.
They’re absolutely horrible. The Hagg stuff is irksome because they seriously won’t shut up about him and refuse to criticize him, but they’re consistently unbearable about every topic. At this point, I literally watch games nearly muted because even hearing their voices is annoying.
Man I wish...Well they need to fire those guys then!!! Well, JJ anyway. I like Jonesy!!!
HAVING TO DEAL WITH WATCHING FARMER GET RICH WHILE BEING THE WORST DEFENSEMAN IN THE HISTORY OF ORGANIZED SPORTS AND THE FLYERS NOT SHOOTING THAT USELESS POS INTO THE SUN AND NOT BRINGING UP MYERS RIGHT ****ING NOW IS CURRENTLY AT THE TOP OF MY "REASONS TO QUESTION /DESPISE FLYERS MANAGEMENT".
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I don’t often agree with you, but I do here. Clarke & Holmgren were always willing to give talented kids a shot. Hextall was ultra-cautious. And he wanted a locker room of drone-like “professionals” to “teach” the kids to be boring.The ironic thing is the dinosaurs of this franchise would have happily had Myers up here weeks ago.
Clarke and Holmgren were always quick to give a kid a chance if he was better than the guy in front of him. We've become an organization of cowards.
If they come up and play well, we win (well maybe our draft position suffers).
If they come up and they aren't ready, we still win lol. Nothing lost (playoffs not happening), we get to see what we have, keep a decent pick position and keep the authentic fan entertained!
Here's an idea, Farmer goes for conditioning, get these young guys up one at a time on 9 game tryout rotations. I dunno, something needs to be done anyways to keep the team energized.
The ironic thing is the dinosaurs of this franchise would have happily had Myers up here weeks ago.
Clarke and Holmgren were always quick to give a kid a chance if he was better than the guy in front of him. We've become an organization of cowards.
By the time Myers, Morin, Frost and Farabee are up playing well at the NHL level Giroux will be declining and this team will still be .500
I don't see an end to this mediocrity
Provorov (25) - Gostisbehere (29)
Sanheim (26) - Myers (25)
Hagg (27) - Friedman (26)
Morin (27) - Hogberg (24)
Zamula (22) - Kalynuk (25)
Ginning (22) - St. Ivany (23)
Wylie (22) - Bernhardt (24)
Hart (24)
Sandstrom (25)
Ersson (22)
Ustimenko (23)
I still think there is a good window... annoying though that this year should probably have been the real start of it. They are finally a good 5v5 team objectively yet the net-minding and special teams has killed them, they should be a play-off team this year, they are better than last year, but:
Zero excuses why Lappy has not been gone for two years now...
And they re-signed Neuvirth (who since the start of 2016-17 has the worst sv% of any NHL goalie with 50+ games... .897 sv%... and is maybe the most injury prone guy in NHL)
Giroux should be a 1st line guy until age ~34... 2022-23... Jake and JvR *should* still be ~50 point guys capable of being on a 2nd line.
To start 2022-23 season:
Giroux (34) - Couturier (29) - Konecny (25)
van Riemsdyk (33) - Patrick (24) - Voracek (33)
Farabee (22) - Frost (23) - Ratcliffe (23)
Lindblom (26) - Vorobyev (25) - Allison (25)
Rubtsov (24) - Laughton (28) - Laczynski (25)
Aube-Kubel (26) - O'Brien (22) - Kase (25)
Lycksell (23) - Westfalt (22) - Cates (23)
Strome (23) - Bunnaman (24) - Sushko (23)
Provorov (25) - Gostisbehere (29)
Sanheim (26) - Myers (25)
Hagg (27) - Friedman (26)
Morin (27) - Hogberg (24)
Zamula (22) - Kalynuk (25)
Ginning (22) - St. Ivany (23)
Wylie (22) - Bernhardt (24)
Hart (24)
Sandstrom (25)
Ersson (22)
Ustimenko (23)
Ofc some guys will be gone, some not pan out etc... but it will not be some ancient team.
I think Patrick, Frost, Farabee and Konecny from within the organisation have legit ~70 point potential, not all will get there, but some should. And then the D group should be great.
AM VERY IMPRESSED BY ERSSON... NOW THAT IVE SEEN HIM IN...PERSSON.That goalie list!
I still think there is a good window... annoying though that this year should probably have been the real start of it. They are finally a good 5v5 team objectively yet the net-minding and special teams has killed them, they should be a play-off team this year, they are better than last year, but:
Zero excuses why Lappy has not been gone for two years now...
And they re-signed Neuvirth (who since the start of 2016-17 has the worst sv% of any NHL goalie with 50+ games... .897 sv%... and is maybe the most injury prone guy in NHL)
Giroux should be a 1st line guy until age ~34... 2022-23... Jake and JvR *should* still be ~50 point guys capable of being on a 2nd line.
To start 2022-23 season:
Giroux (34) - Couturier (29) - Konecny (25)
van Riemsdyk (33) - Patrick (24) - Voracek (33)
Farabee (22) - Frost (23) - Ratcliffe (23)
Lindblom (26) - Vorobyev (25) - Allison (25)
Rubtsov (24) - Laughton (28) - Laczynski (25)
Aube-Kubel (26) - O'Brien (22) - Kase (25)
Lycksell (23) - Westfalt (22) - Cates (23)
Strome (23) - Bunnaman (24) - Sushko (23)
Provorov (25) - Gostisbehere (29)
Sanheim (26) - Myers (25)
Hagg (27) - Friedman (26)
Morin (27) - Hogberg (24)
Zamula (22) - Kalynuk (25)
Ginning (22) - St. Ivany (23)
Wylie (22) - Bernhardt (24)
Hart (24)
Sandstrom (25)
Ersson (22)
Ustimenko (23)
Ofc some guys will be gone, some not pan out etc... but it will not be some ancient team.
I think Patrick, Frost, Farabee and Konecny from within the organisation have legit ~70 point potential, not all will get there, but some should. And then the D group should be great.
Exactly. This was always the problem with Hextalls plan.