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[Rebels57]

How many others got a shot before NAK?

Anyway, someone clearly doesn’t like being challenged. I maintain retaining on Gudas was stupid. The trade has worked but we overpaid. I stand by it.

How many more times does this need to be covered? The only reason Washington traded us the better defensemen for the worse defensemen was because they needed cap space..hence the retention.

 

[GapToothedWonder]

Let’s not get into this again, but you’re harsh on Gudas there.

Haven't they been sitting Gudas lately?

 

[Tripod]

Haven't they been sitting Gudas lately?

He got scratched 1 game....5 days ago.

 

[GapToothedWonder]

He got scratched 1 game....5 days ago.

Ahh I thought it has been a few in a row.

 

[gertbfrobe16]

when their is trouble, the new guy always gets blamed.

 

[Curufinwe]

How many more times does this need to be covered? The only reason Washington traded us the better defensemen for the worse defensemen was because they needed cap space..hence the retention.

Should of traded for Subban instead.

 

[Deadpool8812]

How many more times does this need to be covered? The only reason Washington traded us the better defensemen for the worse defensemen was because they needed cap space..hence the retention.

Well, he's got a point. I understand the retention due to cap purposes for WSH, but Fletcher did not get ANYTHING for retaining when we have seen countless trades done due to cap space and GMs getting an additional asset for retaining (draft pick). This was the second trade Fletcher has made to help another GM create cap space where he has gotten nothing for doing so (Stolarz/Talbot)

 

[Curufinwe]

How many others got a shot before NAK?

Anyway, someone clearly doesn’t like being challenged. I maintain retaining on Gudas was stupid. The trade has worked but we overpaid. I stand by it.

Imagine standing by this nonsense in February, 2020.

So let me get this straight. We get the older player, we get the more expensive player with the longer contract, we (from the stats) seem to get the weaker defenseman AND we retain salary?! There's not even a pissy little 2nd swinging our way to accommodate us doing them a favour?

This makes no sense. Absolutely no sense. We've bailed out a divisional rival and got worse for no gain.

 

[Curufinwe]

Well, he's got a point. I understand the retention due to cap purposes for WSH, but Fletcher did not get ANYTHING for retaining

He got the much better player, a genuine top pairing defenseman.

 

[Deadpool8812]

He got the much better player, a genuine top pairing defenseman.

so? Holmgren traded the better player in the Upshall/Carcillo move and still had to add a draft pick for the cap space

 

[Ghosts Beer]

You don't retain, you don't end up with Niskanen. Think there aren't 30 other teams in the NHL who would love to have him?

I cannot fathom, how with the season Niskanen has had, there are still people grousing about a little bit of retained salary that got the deal done.

 

[Rebels57]

Well, he's got a point. I understand the retention due to cap purposes for WSH, but Fletcher did not get ANYTHING for retaining when we have seen countless trades done due to cap space and GMs getting an additional asset for retaining (draft pick). This was the second trade Fletcher has made to help another GM create cap space where he has gotten nothing for doing so (Stolarz/Talbot)

Lmao they got the BETTER player. Thats the reward for retaining.

This isnt the same as Talbot for Stolarz. That one was silly.

 

[Deadpool8812]

You don't retain, you don't end up with Niskanen. Think there aren't 30 other teams in the NHL who would love to have him?

I cannot fathom, how with the season Niskanen has had, there are still people grousing about a little bit of retained salary that got the deal done.

I'm not complaining about the retained cap at all with this move...the buy-out of Schlemko was dumber

 

[Rebels57]

I'm not complaining about the retained cap at all with this move...the buy-out of Schlemko was dumber

If they buried him in the AHL this season his cap hit would have been even higher than his buy-out.

 

[1865]

Imagine standing by this nonsense in February, 2020.

The difference between me and you bud, I hold my hands up. I was wrong with us getting worse with the trade.

You really need to get past it.

 

[1865]

You don't retain, you don't end up with Niskanen. Think there aren't 30 other teams in the NHL who would love to have him?

I cannot fathom, how with the season Niskanen has had, there are still people grousing about a little bit of retained salary that got the deal done.

Nobody is really still grousing about it. With hindsight it’s worked out great, but back then I reckon we could have squeezed them. We held the cards.

 

[Ghosts Beer]

Nobody is really still grousing about it. With hindsight it’s worked out great, but back then I reckon we could have squeezed them. We held the cards.

When you hold a top pairing RH defenseman in a league where D is in high demand, you hold the cards.

Getting stingy over a few shekels, to a team who is only making Niskanen available for cap relief, is how you lose him to another team.

Frankly, Fletcher might have swooped in & stole Niskanen from another GM who was trying to get away without retaining.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Yeah I'm having trouble imagining how we could have pushed much harder. Washington could have happily found a non-divisional partner to swap dmen with and get cap relief.

It is bizarre to see a mutually beneficial trade in division like this, but it happened, and I guess it's better that we could be a beneficiary instead of someone else while Washington got the room they required.

 

[Deadpool8812]

If they buried him in the AHL this season his cap hit would have been even higher than his buy-out.

don't waste a contract on Stewart. Case solved

 

[Ghosts Beer]

Yeah I'm having trouble imagining how we could have pushed much harder. Washington could have happily found a non-divisional partner to swap dmen with and get cap relief.

It is bizarre to see a mutually beneficial trade in division like this, but it happened, and I guess it's better that we could be a beneficiary instead of someone else while Washington got the room they required.

Very rare to see a first pair D get traded within the division. Fletcher did what it took to seal the deal, & for that I’m thankful. Niskanen is probably my 2nd favorite player on the team behind Couturier. Very intelligent player.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Very rare to see a first pair D get traded within the division. Fletcher did what it took to seal the deal, & for that I’m thankful. Niskanen is probably my 2nd favorite player on the team behind Couturier. Very intelligent player.

Niskanen was my 2nd favorite player to watch live on the Caps behind OV.

My idea of divisional trades is what Calgary and Edmonton did to each other, where each assumed they were handing the other a big fat bucket of sharts and they gambled the bucket they were giving was stinkier. Caps and Flyers did not do that.

 

[Rebels57]

Nobody is really still grousing about it. With hindsight it’s worked out great, but back then I reckon we could have squeezed them. We held the cards.

We held what cards? There are 29 other NHL teams and im guessing half would have had legit interest in Niskanen.

 

[Tripod]

We held what cards? There are 29 other NHL teams and im guessing half would have had legit interest in Niskanen.

I guess we can put it to rest now that we know that Fletch had 3 options: add a 2nd rounder, add a top 4 prospect, or retain.

Fletch did the right thing.

 

[landsbergfan]

We held what cards? There are 29 other NHL teams and im guessing half would have had legit interest in Niskanen.

based on the salary cap I don't believe that there were 14-15 legit options for a Niskanen trade

 

[Amorgus]

Niskanen was my 2nd favorite player to watch live on the Caps behind OV.

My idea of divisional trades is what Calgary and Edmonton did to each other, where each assumed they were handing the other a big fat bucket of sharts and they gambled the bucket they were giving was stinkier. Caps and Flyers did not do that.