Roster Moves: Flyers claim Pickard off Waivers

[LegionOfDoom91]

Toronto would get the right to claim Pickard back without going through the waiver process if the Flyers put him on waivers again.

 

[backburner]

Toronto would get the right to claim Pickard back without going through the waiver process if the Flyers put him on waivers again.

doesnt he stay on their main roster tho. And if they waive, flyers can grab him and put in minors directly.

 

[deadhead]

Which is fine, we don't need Pickard in the AHL, we need a reliable backup goalie at the NHL level.

We can audition Pickard until Lyon is healthy (supposedly Neuvirth is skating, but I don't think Hextall has any trust in him staying healthy for more than a week at a time), then decide between them.

This is a no cost move, heck, we waived Weiss and Leier and lost neither player, we can waive Stolarz with little fear of him being claimed, and the same with Lehtera and Knight. So the money is peanuts and we don't risk losing a player.

 

[Striiker]

Can’t be any worse than Mrazek was

Came here to post this exact thing, word for word

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

doesnt he stay on their main roster tho. And if they waive, flyers can grab him and put in minors directly.

Nah, Toronto gets the right to claim him back & send him down without passing through waivers since they were his original team.

The Flyers would have had to trade for Pickard to be in that position. That’s why you saw some guys get traded the past few days that were on waivers.

 

[Ruck Over]

Hart with Sandstroms post-to-post movement would win multiple Jennings.

FTFY

The two of them are going to split the vote too much in order to win Vezinas.

 

[PHILOUDELPHIA]

Looks like stoli will be gone, sam charldi tweeting, stoli may be gone, nothing official yet.

 

[Danko]

Looks like stoli will be gone, sam charldi tweeting, stoli may be gone, nothing official yet.

I think the tweet your referring to is where he said may be replacing Stoli, i take that as replacing him as backup on the roster.

 

[FLYguy3911]

There's really no benefit to waiving Stolarz now unless there is another move in the works.

 

[BrindamoursNose]

Like the move in-general. Not like we're bursting with talent there right now.

I like Pickard (more than Stolie) so I'm a fan even if Stolie has to go. Neuvy can go kick rocks, Lyon isn't the real deal and Hart just needs a tiny bit more time to cook it seems. Elliot is fine for 1 more year.

Let's see how it goes.

 

[flyersfan187]

Neuvy can't stay healthy. Lyon should be a career number 3 goalie. Elliot was over worked last season and then got hurt probably because of his usage. Stoly is a question mark. Hart I would like to see stay in the AHL for a year for experience and to gain confidence, even though I think he is already our best goalie. You bring in Pickard that has some potential and can spell Elliot a lot of games. This is a very nice move by the Flyers.

 

[KrazyKat]

This is a smart move. If he sucks, he sucks. If not we have a proven back up for now, and stolarz can get some time in the AHL.

When / If Nuevy comes back. Pickard can just be released again if necessary. Unless he plays well, then Nuevy can be expendable. Same with Lyon.

 

[Deadpool8812]

This is a smart move. If he sucks, he sucks. If not we have a proven back up for now, and stolarz can get some time in the AHL.

When / If Nuevy comes back. Pickard can just be released again if necessary. Unless he plays well, then Nuevy can be expendable. Same with Lyon.

Well...you can't just release him

 

[TheKingPin]

I thought he was good?

 

[FLYguy3911]

I thought he was good?

Not really. He was sub-par in Colorado and a backup in the AHL last year (on a good team). Such is life living on the wire.

 

[Curufinwe]

He was better for that terrible Colorado team in 16-17 than Varlamov was.

Like the move in-general. Not like we're bursting with talent there right now.

I like Pickard (more than Stolie) so I'm a fan even if Stolie has to go. Neuvy can go kick rocks

Seems like a bad idea for such a brittle guy.

 

[eramosat]

Not really. He was sub-par in Colorado and a backup in the AHL last year (on a good team). Such is life living on the wire.

I think Pickard is definitely good enough to show himself superior to both Lyon and Stolarz, and even more. He was a victim of the Vegas draft and then the Leafs goaltending "depth"...he just as easily could have been playing full-time in the NHL last year.

Will be interesting to see how the Flyers approach his usage, how he does and if he's given a chance to unseat the other Flyer keepers. He's no Mrazek, IMO.

 

[FLYguy3911]

He was better for that terrible Colorado team in 16-17 than Varlamov was.

By the metrics they were both bad. Varlamov also played half as many minutes and only 24 games. Varlamov faced more high quality chances than Pickard when he played.

Pickard was 52nd out of 56 goalies in dSV% (actual sv% minus expected sv%). His -23.13 GSAA (goals saved above average) was the worst in the league by 8 goals and he only played 50 games. Not saying you can place all of the blame on him for Colorado's disastrous season, but they had a huge turnaround when he left.

I don't blame the Flyers for adding him, there's almost no risk, but I wouldn't expect a whole lot outta him. I wonder which goalie the Flyers preferred?

 

[Maurice of Orange]

Neuvy can't stay healthy. Lyon should be a career number 3 goalie. Elliot was over worked last season and then got hurt probably because of his usage. Stoly is a question mark. Hart I would like to see stay in the AHL for a year for experience and to gain confidence, even though I think he is already our best goalie. You bring in Pickard that has some potential and can spell Elliot a lot of games. This is a very nice move by the Flyers.

How can you say this about your future starter The Lyon King

 

[deadhead]

Not saying you can place all of the blame on him for Colorado's disastrous season, but they had a huge turnaround when he left.

I don't blame the Flyers for adding him, there's almost no risk, but I wouldn't expect a whole lot outta him. I wonder which goalie the Flyers preferred?

Varlamov had a good year before that season (.914) and a good year afterwards (.920), he may have been injured, but I think that team also tanked.
Both backups in 25 games (Pickard and Berra) put up a .922 % in 2015-16, and Bernier put up .913 in 2017-18.

So while I don't think Pickard is starter quality, I also think his 2016-17 season probably was an anomaly. Every goalie they started that year put up really bad numbers.

 

[sa cyred]

So Pickard is on Non-Roster status... that’s a new term for me.

Also Weiss is on the team.

EDIT: explained in other thread

 

[Adam Warlock]

Hextall did a great job drafting and rebuilding the farm...but now that he has a ton of players to manage he has no idea wtf hes doing.

 

[baudib1]

I'm less angry about this now than I was. I get it from Hextall's perspective.

I'm not trusting Hakstol to figure out how to utilize his marginal talents, particularly the goaltenders.

 

[BrindamoursNose]

Hextall did a great job drafting and rebuilding the farm...but now that he has a ton of players to manage he has no idea wtf hes doing.

What on Earth are you babbling about?

 

[Curufinwe]

Make him Captain.