Confirmed with Link: Flyers acquire Cam Talbot for Anthony Stolarz

[Starat327]

dh can't seem to grasp the human element of the game. everything is just numbers and stats to him.

any chance you could post this in binary? Will make it easier to enter in to the machine and formulate a response. Thanks.

 

[The Madrigal]

Stolarz getting lit up again tonight. Four goals against on 2o shots. In four appearances with Edmonton he has gone 3.41/.900, 3.o6/.925, 4.41/.882, 7.03, .833.

Meanwhile the Flyers look to prefer Elliott over Talbot at this point. Chances are neither guy ends up back with their current team and this ends up being a nothing trade.

 

[deadhead]

I thought Lyon was better than Stolarz. I was shouted down.
We'll see in a year or two.

 

[The Madrigal]

I thought Lyon was better than Stolarz. I was shouted down.
We'll see in a year or two.

Some people love Stolarz because he's tall, it's that simple. The fact is he just isn't that good, there wasn't room for him next year, and he had no value around the league.

 

[Maurice of Orange]

I thought Lyon was better than Stolarz. I was shouted down.
We'll see in a year or two.

I believe Lyon was the better goalie as well, but was laughed at and told Lyon was the new Neil Little, which in turn had me laughing.

 

[Tripod]

To clarify, multiple people are tooting their own horn about 26 year old Lyon who is in the AHL with a career .894 SV% in the NHL, over 25 year old Stolarz who IS in the NHL and has a career SV% of .908 in the NHL.

Huh.

 

[Curufinwe]

It's also fair to point out that Stolarz career SV% is above .900 because of his first run of NHL games which came before his knee injuries. And he could find himself back in the AHL next season.

 

[Prongo]

I thought Lyon was better than Stolarz. I was shouted down.
We'll see in a year or two.

What happens when both are in the AHL for the next year or two? They both seem to be non-nhlers right now.

There’s nothing to brag about with both players.

 

[deadhead]

Lyon is on a serious roll since the Calder Cup playoffs last year, he was injured when he was with the Flyers and didn't look himself until around January - but he's the only thing that kept the Phantoms even close to competitive this year.
It's not uncommon for goalies to put it together around 25-26 years old.

Stolarz never played at as high a level on a sustained basis.

 

[Fire Tortorella]

Anyone else sort of getting the sense this move was nothing more than clearing space in our AHL net and providing Stolarz the opportunity to audition elsewhere? That could be an important point this franchise is trying to make given we have a large number of college prospects we'll have to sign with limited spots on the big club long term.

 

[deadhead]

Given Stolarz was a UFA, and we didn't need the room this year in the AHL (could have just released McKenna), I think it was mostly about bringing Talbot in and seeing if he liked Philly. He's not going to resign if he's offered a starting job, but if not, this might be the best place to backup.

 

[Cody Webster]

Maybe this guy will see some playing time now and we can see what he has for next season

 

[Rebels57]

Maybe this guy will see some playing time now and we can see what he has for next season

It should be Hart/Talbot the rest of the way. Let Elliott start his summer early.

 

[Curufinwe]

Seems pretty clear that Elliott is not coming back and they want Talbot as Hart's backup next season, but what are the odds Talbot has a better 19-20 season than Elliott? I'd say it's 50/50 at best.

 

[CanuckistanFlyerfan]

Seems pretty clear that Elliott is not coming back and they want Talbot as Hart's backup next season, but what are the odds Talbot has a better 19-20 season than Elliott? I'd say it's 50/50 at best.

I agree...its likely 50/50.

But you'd think if Fletcher brought Talbot in to be Harts backup they might want to see if he's actually any good.

 

[Tripod]

Seems pretty clear that Elliott is not coming back and they want Talbot as Hart's backup next season, but what are the odds Talbot has a better 19-20 season than Elliott? I'd say it's 50/50 at best.

I think Elliott will be better. But you can understand them wanting to move on to a goalie who has a history of being much healthier in Talbot. We need to end this string musical chairs with our goalies....8 this year...4 last year.

 

[Tripod]

And to add, Elliott was essentially paid as a highest backup money. He posted a .910 SV% and a 2.71 GAA with us in the 2 years and 34-20-8. If we get that from Talbot or another backup next year, that's ok.

 

[Lindberg]

Thanks for the laugh deadhead. Haven't laughed this hard in a while.

 

[Rebels57]

And to add, Elliott was essentially paid as a highest backup money. He posted a .910 SV% and a 2.71 GAA with us in the 2 years and 34-20-8. If we get that from Talbot or another backup next year, that's ok.

It's ok as long as he also stays healthy, which Elliott couldn't do.

 

[Tripod]

It's ok as long as he also stays healthy, which Elliott couldn't do.

Well, he still has to play well and win games. No sense being healthy if you are going to lose. But I do think he can help us next year and there certainly isn't a whole lot of guys who are obviously better.

I expect a 2 year deal around 3 million.

 

[captainpaxil]

So explain Boucher? Same defense, different results.
Sometimes goalies get hot at the right time.

Boucher was notoriously streaky and could be insanely good when hot and it was exactly that when he got hurt in the middle of a shutout. No one in thier right mind thinks goaltending was a strength of that team let alone carried them anywhere.

As for lyon and stolarz i think stolie given his physical attributes has more talent but lyon has better technique. Lyon is the better pro and more definitive product while stolie may or may not be the better player. I think thwy got value where they could and stuck with the safer option.

Id still like to see talbot play a little more

 

[deadhead]

"Despite his recent struggles, Mikko Koskinen is expected to remain the starter moving forward, per a TSN report. While that in itself isn’t entirely noteworthy, it will, however, make it difficult for the Oilers to retain Anthony Stolarz’s rights as a restricted free agent. He needed to play at least 30 minutes in 10 games following his acquisition from Philadelphia to avoid unrestricted free agency. Tuesday’s relief appearance was only his third and with only nine games left, it will be difficult for the team to get Stolarz seven more games with that much playing time if they intend to keep Koskinen as the starter."

Oilers Notes: Chiasson, Goaltending, Free Agent Target

So it will end up a wash, two UFAs exchanged, neither of which did much for their new teams.