Proposal: Florida-Carolina-Winnipeg

[10Ducky10]

Why would that be exactly? I'm not seeing any argument that supports that, especially when this was just posted :

I like a D man with an edge and Slavin doesn't have it but Trouba does.

 

[Finlandia WOAT]

jacob trouba best point share (points in standings above replacement level player): 5.9 in 13-14

Jaccob Slavin 2016-17: 8.6, 6.2 in his "down year" last year.

conclusion: slavin >>>>>>>> trouba ainec

 

[JetsHomer]

Why would you put Trouba ahead of Slavin. Trouba is quite over rated on these boards while Slavin is the opposite.

The opposite of what you said is true actually

 

[GoldiFox]

The opposite of what you said is true actually

actually when you said "is true" what you meant to say was "isn't true".

it's kind of like a double negative

 

[Android 16]

their center depth isn't weakened THAT much. Trocheck is capable of 1C duties and Staal would take the tough 2nd line shutdown minutes that could help shelter Borgstrom. They also get an extra pick and a good forward prospect in Roy.

Let me know what you think!

This had me in stitches. Thanks for the laughs.

 

[cowboy82nd]

Since my other post was deleted, let me just say this: No way Florida (or for that matter Tallon) does this trade. At least not sober.

 

[heilongjetsfan]

What would you add. Let’s see this deal.

I dunno, really. I'm not that familiar with Florida or their needs, so I'm really just spitballing. Trouba, Roslovic and a 1st would be my introductory offer, I guess.

 

[GIN ANTONIC]

This thread is bonkers. Barkov isn’t going anywhere and the Slavin - Trouba bickering is boring as hell

 

[Leaf Fans]

This seems like the summer when people have realized that there are two great centers in Panthers' roster. And now they are wanted... It would be cool tho if people had even an basic idea of the value of those two. Horrible proposal after proposal. (And then there were those Borgström proposals too that didn't make too much sense either. Specially Borgström to Habs seemed to be trend for a while...)

Barkov is not moving. He is too good player in a sweetheart contract. (Same goes for Trocheck.) Value-wise only trade with Barkov that would make sense even a little with Winnipeg included is that Scheifele is going other way. And even that doesn't make sense really. Barkov (and Trocheck) won't (or shouldn't) be moved for quantity. Florida needs quality of the same level. Barkov is elite #1C and Trocheck is likely top30 center also. For the next four years Barkov's AAV is $5,9 millions and Trocheck's AAV is $4,75 millions. That is a great value for team that is trying to win.

Barkov is a player that every team would like to have. But his value is so high that trade including him doesn't make sense.

You are right! Barkov is both one of the best and most underrated centers in the NHL. Of course every team wants him including mine.

 

[PensandCaps]

lmao Florida laughs so much.

 

[heilongjetsfan]

actually when you said "is true" what you meant to say was "isn't true".

it's kind of like a double negative

*isn't not true

 

[Beezeral]

I dunno, really. I'm not that familiar with Florida or their needs, so I'm really just spitballing. Trouba, Roslovic and a 1st would be my introductory offer, I guess.

Ignore needs. Try and find an offer that’s fair. Here’s a hint. This offer isn’t close.

 

[heilongjetsfan]

You asked, I answered as best I could. So maybe this is where you say "___ isn't enough. How about ___ instead." Or "that's close to Trochek value, let's start there." Or "I need a ___ who do you have?" Or "I don't know anything about this Roslovic kid, what can you tell me?"

 

[Beezeral]

You asked, I answered as best I could. So maybe this is where you say "___ isn't enough. How about ___ instead." Or "that's close to Trochek value, let's start there." Or "I need a ___ who do you have?" Or "I don't know anything about this Roslovic kid, what can you tell me?"

You clearly aren’t getting the lesson. When you make a trade offer for a top 5ish center in hockey who is 22 and on a bargain contract, trouba, a prospect, and a first will get you laughed at.

 

[lifelonghockeyfan]

Too often in this ridiculous Trouba trades, a players term is not considered. FACT Trouba is two years from free agency. He has shown he going that route. So teams aren't trading young stars and players with term for Trouba. Especially teams that are out of the playoffs, Trouba's best value in a trade might be to a contender who wants immediate help for two years. If that's the case, maybe the Jets just keep him for two years as Trouba will help Jets with their Cup run. Why people think upcoming UFAs HAVE to be traded is beyond reason.

 

[Ares]

Trouba > Slavin
Roslovic > Mckeown+2nd

Pass from the Jets

I would be happy to get Slavin for Trouba but I agree with your 2nd point. Jets end up giving up more here than they get back, so no trade. Florida has no reason to give up Barkov either.

 

[heilongjetsfan]

You clearly aren’t getting the lesson. When you make a trade offer for a top 5ish center in hockey who is 22 and on a bargain contract, trouba, a prospect, and a first will get you laughed at.

Not sure what the lesson was that I hadn't gotten before this post, Old Master, but I'm here to learn.

Also before you break out into your wiseman guffaws, it might be worth (very timidly) reminding you that the Carolina Hurricanes proposed this trade and got more from either of us than they gave out, so I propsed giving all the value directly to your team, and then improving on it and THEN pointing out that it was where I wanted to begin the conversation.

I won't point out that Corsica rates Barkov as the number 13C in the league and I also won't ask which of guys like Matthews, McDavid, Scheifele, Crosby, Kopitar, Seguin. Tavares, Malkin, Bergeron, MacKinnon or Thornton should be pushed out of the top-5 by Barkov.

Based on your seniority, which is apparent from your say-so, I wouldn't dare to wonder if you had any counter offer to bring forth. Hyperbole is all that I and my pathetic excuse for a city deserve.

 

[Brock Radunske]

Everyone loses but Carolina

 

[Beezeral]

Not sure what the lesson was that I hadn't gotten before this post, Old Master, but I'm here to learn.

Also before you break out into your wiseman guffaws, it might be worth (very timidly) reminding you that the Carolina Hurricanes proposed this trade and got more from either of us than they gave out, so I propsed giving all the value directly to your team, and then improving on it and THEN pointing out that it was where I wanted to begin the conversation.

I won't point out that Corsica rates Barkov as the number 13C in the league and I also won't ask which of guys like Matthews, McDavid, Scheifele, Crosby, Kopitar, Seguin. Tavares, Malkin, Bergeron, MacKinnon or Thornton should be pushed out of the top-5 by Barkov.

Based on your seniority, which is apparent from your say-so, I wouldn't dare to wonder if you had any counter offer to bring forth. Hyperbole is all that I and my pathetic excuse for a city deserve.

I know at least one person he passes on your list.