GDT: Flames vs Canucks in Calgary Oct 6/2018 8:00 PM MT ( CBC, SN360, CITY, SNW / Fan960)

[Tkachuky]

I miss Shot Down in Flames

TNT has a good beat. It gets to crowd going.

 

[Lunatik]

Gotta love the Flames board.
We win big, the only real concern in the goaltending and some defensive lapses; but Ryan and Bennett are the main topics

If Benny plays like this, he'll work his way up the roster. He's looked good so far this preseason and season, and will definitely get his opportunity up the line up.

Also, why are we bringing the Ryan *****ing already? The dude played 2nd unit PP, on a powerplay that deploys 4 forwards. His TOI reflects that he's Calgary's 3rd line centre? What are people expecting here? For him to play 4th line minutes?

I really thought that that Dube - Ryan - Neal line looked fine for most of the evening. They had a couple rough zone times, but overall, not horrid. They also generated some chances that they weren't able to capitalize.

At this stage I have no issues regarding forward deployment. If we play like we've been playing on the attacking end for 80 more games, we'll make the playoffs.

Good post.

I don't know why Ryan is being complained about personally and the complaints about ice-time are there because this team has been losing more than they have been winning or tied and there has been a ton of PPs. We get a game where we have the lead most of the game and there isn't a ton of PP opportunities and the 4th line will play quite a bit more.

 

[Baxterman]

Gotta love the Flames board.
We win big, the only real concern in the goaltending and some defensive lapses; but Ryan and Bennett are the main topics

If Benny plays like this, he'll work his way up the roster. He's looked good so far this preseason and season, and will definitely get his opportunity up the line up.

Also, why are we bringing the Ryan *****ing already? The dude played 2nd unit PP, on a powerplay that deploys 4 forwards. His TOI reflects that he's Calgary's 3rd line centre? What are people expecting here? For him to play 4th line minutes?

I really thought that that Dube - Ryan - Neal line looked fine for most of the evening. They had a couple rough zone times, but overall, not horrid. They also generated some chances that they weren't able to capitalize.

At this stage I have no issues regarding forward deployment. If we play like we've been playing on the attacking end for 80 more games, we'll make the playoffs.

If we had a PP unit that deploy 20 men Ryan shouldn’t see a minute of time but he definitely should not be in the PP over Bennett or Dube, two guys with actual talent.

And yes it would be nice if Ryan it 4th line, or better yet PB, minutes.

 

[Johnny Hoxville]

Gotta love the Flames board.
We win big, the only real concern in the goaltending and some defensive lapses; but Ryan and Bennett are the main topics

If Benny plays like this, he'll work his way up the roster. He's looked good so far this preseason and season, and will definitely get his opportunity up the line up.

Also, why are we bringing the Ryan *****ing already? The dude played 2nd unit PP, on a powerplay that deploys 4 forwards. His TOI reflects that he's Calgary's 3rd line centre? What are people expecting here? For him to play 4th line minutes?

I really thought that that Dube - Ryan - Neal line looked fine for most of the evening. They had a couple rough zone times, but overall, not horrid. They also generated some chances that they weren't able to capitalize.

At this stage I have no issues regarding forward deployment. If we play like we've been playing on the attacking end for 80 more games, we'll make the playoffs.

I think there’s many positives for the Flames, and knowingly they are not going to score 7 goals every game. But let’s be honest, Peters himself said last night that the Flames are long ways away from being where they need to be 5 on 5. So I think it’s fine to critique the good and bad as a fan.

It’s a legit concern to me that if Bennett stays playing less than 10 minutes a night, he’s not going to be close to the player he has the potential to become. I also like SKRusty’s suggestion of playing Neal on that line with Bennett and Janks. If you use them 13-15 min a night, you’ll get no complaints for me. I think it’s time though that we throw Bennett into the fire. If he can become a top 6 guy, I legit think the Flames will be the favourites in the West to win the Cup.

 

[Mobiandi]

The problem is that our 2nd unit hasn't been good for anything other than burning 30 sec-1 min of our PP.

Obviously, we're only two games in and maybe the chemistry isn't there yet but if this continues, then changes have to be made. So far I haven't really been impressed with Czarnik and Ryan out there. They're not strong enough along the boards like Bennett to hold the puck in.

 

[Mr Snrub]

I'm not too concerned about Bennett because I think he gets traded this year in a quantity for quality deal to a team who looks to be nearing a rebuild. I have absolutely no justification for this outside of the way the forward core is clogged up, I just think it makes sense for Treliving to do.

Maybe something like Bennett and Stone for a PP specialist on D to take bottom pairing minutes with Valimaki? Watching the game last night makes me wonder if Del Zotto could be a good fit, despite being a LHS. Then call up Eatbread and let him play out the season as our 4LW and put Lazar in Frolik's spot. We can re-sign Del Zotto to have him play with Andersson next year, or let him walk and roll Valimaki - Andersson.

If this should go in the Armchair GM thread mods feel free to move.

 

[Johnny Hoxville]

^ I wonder if we see Bennett and something packaged for Nylander at some point.

 

[DCDM]

^ I wonder if we see Bennett and something packaged for Nylander at some point.

I'd welcome it, although I think Bennett's better in his current role than Nylander would be. On the flip side, I think Nylander would make Jankowski a better player. Our top 9 would look great with Nylander.

 

[Lunatik]

I'm not too concerned about Bennett because I think he gets traded this year in a quantity for quality deal to a team who looks to be nearing a rebuild. I have absolutely no justification for this outside of the way the forward core is clogged up, I just think it makes sense for Treliving to do.

Maybe something like Bennett and Stone for a PP specialist on D to take bottom pairing minutes with Valimaki? Watching the game last night makes me wonder if Del Zotto could be a good fit, despite being a LHS. Then call up Eatbread and let him play out the season as our 4LW and put Lazar in Frolik's spot.

If this should go in the Armchair GM thread mods feel free to move.

I was actually thinking that maybe Bennett + Frolik at the draft to a team lacking forward depth. But Stone + Bennett does make sense too

 

[Lunatik]

^ I wonder if we see Bennett and something packaged for Nylander at some point.

LMFAO.... we'd have to package a hell of alot with Bennett to land Nylander

 

[Baxterman]

LMFAO.... we'd have to package a hell of alot with Bennett to land Nylander

Maybe Bennett and Gio could get it done.

 

[Mr Snrub]

I was actually thinking that maybe Bennett + Frolik at the draft to a team lacking forward depth. But Stone + Bennett does make sense too

I was actually thinking Frolik + Bennett initially, hence why I refer to Lazar filling Frolik's spot in my post above forgot to edit. But I felt like if we moved them for a more skilled winger or something we'd end up with the same problem of distributing ice time, either we put Dube's development on the backburner and push him to the fourth line or we end up playing this hypothetical new acquisition there and don't end up any better than we were. The forward core is actually deeper than defense for probably the first time since before the rebuild began.

 

[Lunatik]

I was actually thinking Frolik + Bennett initially, hence why I refer to Lazar filling Frolik's spot in my post above forgot to edit. But I felt like if we moved them for a more skilled winger or something we'd end up with the same problem of distributing ice time, either we put Dube's development on the backburner and push him to the fourth line or we end up playing this hypothetical new acquisition there and don't end up any better than we were. The forward core is actually deeper than defense for probably the first time since before the rebuild began.

Maybe just go balls out and include all 3

 

[Lunatik]

Maybe Bennett and Gio could get it done.

Look at you, trying to cripple the team again

 

[DFF]

^ I wonder if we see Bennett and something packaged for Nylander at some point.

Bennett is worth a 2nd at this point.

In another year, we may be able to waive him with no risk

I am sure the Leafs want a much bigger piece for Nylander but him holding out is not helping.

 

[Baxterman]

Look at you, trying to cripple the team again

I wouldn’t make that deal just suggesting that’s what it would take as an add to Bennett.

But don’t let that stop you from trying to get cheap insults in.

 

[Volica]

I think you keep Benny on the bottom line this season. Would certainly help you get a good contract out of him.

 

[Lunatik]

I think you keep Benny on the bottom line this season. Would certainly help you get a good contract out of him.

Agreed. When injuries happen and/or he gets hot, he will get an opportunity to move up in the lineup.

 

[Rubi]

The first PP unit of :
Tkachuk
Gaudreau-Monahan-Lindholm
Giordano
played very well.

I'd like to see the 2nd unit tinkered with a bit:
Neal
Bennett-Backlund-Czarnik
Hanifin

 

[Lunatik]

Backlund gets tossed from the FO circle quite a bit, that is why I like having Ryan out there on the PP with them.

 

[Ace Rimmer]

Given the PP went 3/6 officially (and 4/6 unofficially since Giordano's goal was seconds after time elapsed) I think the current PP lineup can be given a bit more time.

 

[Rubi]

Its still EXTREMELY early in the season so I expect we'll still be seeing a lot of line tinkering with the exception of the first line (probably).
I really wouldn't worry too much about who's playing with who right now.... particularly since it appears that Peters doesn't seem to have a issue with juggling lines if a particular line doesn't seem to be clicking.

Looks like Neal is starting to get his mojo back. I think his second game was better than the first. Wouldn't at all be surprised to see him back on the 2nd line in the near future.

I would like to see Bennett moved up to the left wing with Ryan as his center. I have no issue with Ryan being the 3rd line center. I'd be real interested to see a Dube - Janko duo with Czarnik on the right side. Both Dube and Czarnik are fast skaters.

 

[Rubi]

Backlund gets tossed from the FO circle quite a bit, that is why I like having Ryan out there on the PP with them.

Both Bennett and Czarnik have played center thus they're both experienced at taking face offs, if Backlund gets tossed.

 

[Rubi]

Given the PP went 3/6 officially (and 4/6 unofficially since Giordano's goal was seconds after time elapsed) I think the current PP lineup can be given a bit more time.

I believe that success was due to the 1st PP unit. The 2nd unit needs improvement.

 

[Lunatik]

Both Bennett and Czarnik have played center thus they're both experienced and taking face offs, if Backlund gets tossed.

experienced at faceoffs and being good at faceoffs are two completely different things and Ryan is very good at faceoffs