Confirmed Trade: [FLA/SJS]Mike Hoffman. 7th ('18) for 2nd ('19), 4th ('18) & 5th ('18)

[pucky]

I thought the team/gm who aquired Hoffman should be ashamed - at least, that was the noise on this board. Now, the GM who gets him is 'a hero.' What a bunch of hypocrites.

 

[Seb]

RIP Florida

 

[ijuka]

Sharks:

In:

2nd, 4th, 5th, 5th, Cody Donaghey

Out:

Mikkel Boedker, Julius Bergman, 6th, 7th

Here I thought that Boedker was just a cap dump... Seems like Ottawa didn't do great here.

 

[THE Green Man]

Unreal. I feel bad for Sens fans today. Their management team passed Jim Benning and the Canucks as the worst run team in the league.

5 of the 7 Canadian market GM's are terrible it's actually alarming how bad they are. Benning can't do a proper rebuild or sign adequate valued contracts. Bergevin and Chia make brutal hockey trades. Treliving loves to bleed draft picks and Dorion's last 2 trades have been atrocious. I'll have to wait on Dubas making moves, specifically the Marner, Matthews and Nylander extensions to have a read on him. Who would have thought that Chevy, for all the flack he used to get for being too passive is by far the best Canadian market GM.

 

[FinlandPanther]

RIP Florida

RIP Habs lmao.

 

[Evil Janney]

Well I'll be...

San Jose just won something in June.

 

[DFC]

Question to Ottawa fans: How optimistic are you about Karlsson staying? Or is he as good as gone, regardless of this move?

 

[Bargainbin]

Looking at what Hoffman got with his problems, I'm happy we got Domi for Galchenyuk with his problems.

Chucky's girlfriend beating him up is different than what Hoffman's girl did

 

[Quid Pro Clowe]

I think this website is really overrating the value/impact of a 2nd+4th+5th. There’s a really good chance none of those become NHL players.

Plus 4 million in cap and 6 million in money. All for a player they wanted to dump (Boedker) and a defenseman that didn't have a shot to make the team anytime soon (Bergman).

It's clear SJ is going to be a player this offseason and this gives them flexibility and a few tradable assets.

 

[PBPantherfan]

If you don't want to click the link, it's reported that Eugene Melnyk made this demand.

Maybe Dorion knew he was going to Florida and did it as an FU to Melnyk for being an interfering owner.

 

[FeedingFrenzy]

Brilliant moving getting Hoffman, but then flipping him to FLA, downright incompetence.

DW better have something else brewing because this one looks awful atm.

Clearing space to offer Tavares a sweet deal.

 

[LeafChief]

Not sure if this has been discussed but Darren Millard was on Tim and Sid about an hour ago and mentioned the fact that Ottawa comes away from these trades in the 4th best shape out of the 3 teams involved.

1. San Jose: Got paid to get rid of a cap dump and opened up cap space for a big UFA (Tavares?)
2. Florida: Picked up a 20-30 goal scorer on the cheap
3. Colorado: Likely going to get the 4th overall pick on Friday (unless Ottawa loses their minds and keeps it).
4. Ottawa: They Ottawa'd

 

[pb1300]

I’ll give you one hockey player in Paul Martin for those magic beans you’ve got at #4 overall. How does that sound?

Such an insightful post. So original.

 

[GirardSpinorama]

Don't be obtuse.. this has nothing to do with running the team and you know it. There are expectations that the WAGS will participate in various things together as well as team events, use of a shared suite to viewing etc.

I mean if your wife and the neighbors wife are having issues, the neighborhood barbeques are going to be a bit awkward.

Doesn't mean you can't do your job.

 

[SharksCyclops]

Well I'll be...

San Jose just won something in June.

This is how you want to play?

 

[KCC]

Wowwww did Ottawa ever get fleeced.

That's an understatement. If this was a fight, they'd have been KO'd in the first 5 seconds. lol

 

[pown]

Maybe Dorion knew he was going to Florida and did it as an FU to Melnyk for being an interfering owner.

You really think Dorion has the mental capacity to come up with something like that? Cmon now

 

[Spazkat]

Doesn't mean you can't do your job.

Of course you can do their jobs- but if there is tension/friction between players it creates a bad atmosphere- lack of good chemistry if you will. As I said before - teams are perfectly willing to sign guys that are barely NHLers purely because they are "good in the room". What does that say about how much they value team cohesion and what lengths they will go to to maintain that?

The trade value of Hoffman alone tells you what GM's think about players that bring potential dissension. They're not entirely writing him off since he can score, buut they're also not willing to pay a ton in case they need to dump him later.

 

[T_Cage]

We already were one of the least attractive destinations for free agents before all this mess with Melnyk and Hoffman.

I very much doubt we could have signed someone as "good" as Boedker to a two year 6 million dollar contract this summer.

Thats a good point. While Ottawa did lose value-wise by a mile, this might have been the best scenario for them. Personally I would have taken the picks, traded EK to and do a full rebuild, but if they are trying to keep him I can see the idea behind it

Also interesting commentary on Hoffman's value. The fact fla had to go thru SJ to "facilitate" this probably cost them a little extra in theory (b/c SJ would have a negotiating chip in that Florida couldn't have gotten him straight from OTT), so Hoffman's value was pretty low around the league...

 

[HydroF]

Have to think DW is pretty optimistic on his chances to get Tavares. Swapping Boedker for Hoffman was already a nice improvement but apparently he thinks he will improve the team more with the cap space. It's quite the commitment because Hoffman would have been a pretty sweet pick up.

 

[aemoreira1981]

I'm not so sure. I think Ottawa clearly wanted Hoffman long gone, as far away as possible. SJ flipped him right back in the division.

Where is the Price is Right losing horn when you really need it?

 

[Quid Pro Clowe]

Have to think DW is pretty optimistic on his chances to get Tavares. Swapping Boedker for Hoffman was already a nice improvement but apparently he thinks he will improve the team more with the cap space. It's quite the commitment because Hoffman would have been a pretty sweet pick up.

Besides fa this gives Wilson more flexibility for Friday and Saturday at the draft.

 

[Lenerdosy]

5 of the 7 Canadian market GM's are terrible it's actually alarming how bad they are. Benning can't do a proper rebuild or sign adequate valued contracts. Bergevin and Chia make brutal hockey trades. Treliving loves to bleed draft picks and Dorion's last 2 trades have been atrocious. I'll have to wait on Dubas making moves, specifically the Marner, Matthews and Nylander extensions to have a read on him. Who would have thought that Chevy, for all the flack he used to get for being too passive is by far the best Canadian market GM.

The only thing I am happy with Benning is his drafting has been pretty good minus his first draft (I think he went mostly with what previous scouts suggested) and finally Aquaman has insisted that we don't have to compete for the playoffs finally (because bowing down to the Sedins and trying to give them playoff shots really screwed us the last few years). But overall, outside of the previous 3 drafts its been very meh and disappointing from a Canucks perspective.

Funny how Chevy tune has changed, for years all I heard was Winnipeg fans screaming for his head and to dump him, etc. but he was paitient and has finally reeped his rewards.

 

[Do Make Say Think]

Thats a good point. While Ottawa did lose value-wise by a mile, this might have been the best scenario for them. Personally I would have taken the picks, traded EK to and do a full rebuild, but if they are trying to keep him I can see the idea behind it

Also interesting commentary on Hoffman's value. The fact fla had to go thru SJ to "facilitate" this probably cost them a little extra in theory (b/c SJ would have a negotiating chip in that Florida couldn't have gotten him straight from OTT), so Hoffman's value was pretty low around the league...

I think people mistake my pointing out of avenues where the Senators didn't get completely shafted as me saying it is a good trade.

It isn't.

But considering everything, it isn't terrible either.

 

[Revelation]

This is how you want to play?

I think he already won