Proposal: FLA-PHI

[HockeyRulez]

To
D Shayne Gostisbehere (500k retained/year)

To
D MacKenzie Weegar

Ghost is from South Florida and I think would be great on our D and provide some offense on the PP.

Weegar is a good dman and the Flyers can use a RHD with Niskanen retiring.

thoughts?

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[MrThomas]

Yes would be great for ghost. Lets hope Florida is fine for that though

 

[Juicy Pop]

I think any trades involving Ghost went out the window when Laine, presumably, came off the market.

There's just too much lost value unless he's part of a larger package that's netting an elite asset.

 

[Mal Reynolds]

Florida trades one of their few dmen who's good defensively for another offensive dman when they already have a guy like Yandle (as well as Ekblad) to provide offense and run the PP?

Dubious at best imo

 

[GermanPanther]

I dont understand the trade now either. with all the 2nd and 3rd Pairing Defensman we add.

 

[HockeyRulez]

Florida trades one of their few dmen who's good defensively for another offensive dman when they already have a guy like Yandle (as well as Ekblad) to provide offense and run the PP?

Dubious at best imo

It’s likely we are going to lose Hoffman and maybe even Dadonov. If you watch the Panthers you know how big of a loss that is so if Ghost can qb and contribute on the PP he fills a big need imo. He’s responsible defensively as well; just needs a change of scenery

 

[Mal Reynolds]

It’s likely we are going to lose Hoffman and maybe even Dadonov. If you watch the Panthers you know how big of a loss that is so if Ghost can qb and contribute on the PP he fills a big need imo. He’s responsible defensively as well; just needs a change of scenery

I admit I don't watch the Panthers much but I don't buy it. Ghost would fill a different role than those guys, and even if you feel he's a competent defender, he's still a downgrade from Weegar on a team that can struggle defensively

Anyway, agree to disagree I guess.

 

[Tripod]

Fits the Flyers needs...need a RHD.

Provy, Sanheim, Ghost, Gus, Hagg
Myers, Braun, Friedman

Would give us a nice 4-4 balance

 

[GermanPanther]

It’s likely we are going to lose Hoffman and maybe even Dadonov. If you watch the Panthers you know how big of a loss that is so if Ghost can qb and contribute on the PP he fills a big need imo. He’s responsible defensively as well; just needs a change of scenery

and then again aslong Yandle is in Florida, he will be PP QB and for the 2nd Unite we have new player and other. This trade made only sense, before we sign 2 complete new Lines.

 

[Mrfenn92]

Panthers say no

 

[violaswallet]

Is Ghost a RHD? I see the value both sides and I would hope Zito has a clear view on Ghost’s ability to rebound; as others said, he fills a similar role to Yands rho

 

[Limeyjim]

I'd do it in a New York minute. Weeger is a good defenseman without the knee issues that Gostisbehere has had. Coach Vigneault and Gostisbehere did not get off to a good start last year , and the fact that he's been bandied around the league will not make him very willing to show up put in a stellar effort to remain on this team.

 

[Mal Reynolds]

Is Ghost a RHD? I see the value both sides and I would hope Zito has a clear view on Ghost’s ability to rebound; as others said, he fills a similar role to Yands rho

He's actually better on the right, despite being a left shot

 

[Arwin]

Fits the Flyers needs...need a RHD.

Provy, Sanheim, Ghost, Gus, Hagg
Myers, Braun, Friedman

Would give us a nice 4-4 balance

Weegar is a righty, but plays primarily LD, if I'm not mistaken.

 

[TheImpatientPanther]

Not a fan of this. Weegar trending up and Ghost trending down.
Ghost is gonna be at least a million more than Weegar and we ship out decent defense for more offense/PPQB when we still have Yandle.

 

[violaswallet]

He's actually better on the right, despite being a left shot

Hmm that might make it tough then: we need guys to play on the left side

 

[DingDongCharlie]

Ghost is the bigger name but Weegar is a better overall D. I suppose Ghost could still bounce back but this seems a poor move for Florida

 

[violaswallet]

Ghost is the bigger name but Weegar is a better overall D. I suppose Ghost could still bounce back but this seems a poor move for Florida

Eh part of it would be because Ghost is a Florida native and would merch/tickets

 

[780il]

Weegar is a good bit better at this point. Florida declines pretty easily.

 

[HockeyRulez]

To me it boils down to three things:

It seems to me that Florida is not willing to commit long term to Weegar.

I think Ghost would have a chance to be more impactful on the scoresheet.

Florida has been looking for a dman to play with Ekblad for a long time. This deal brings a hometown boy back and allows the panthers to move on from Weegar.

 

[I am not exposed]

Eh part of it would be because Ghost is a Florida native and would merch/tickets

I mean, it wouldn't move the needle that much. As in his friends and family.

 

[HockeyRulez]

Not a fan of this. Weegar trending up and Ghost trending down.
Ghost is gonna be at least a million more than Weegar and we ship out decent defense for more offense/PPQB when we still have Yandle.

I feel like the risk of signing Weegar is greater than Ghost.

I think Weegar is asking for more than 4mil/yr and for more than 3 years.

If Weegar accepted the kind of deal you’re suggesting I think it would’ve been signed by now tbh.

 

[TheImpatientPanther]

I feel like the risk of signing Weegar is greater than Ghost.

I think Weegar is asking for more than 4mil/yr and for more than 3 years.

If Weegar accepted the kind of deal you’re suggesting I think it would’ve been signed by now tbh.

Do we need Ghost or Weegar more though?

Weegar's term will depend on security now or possibly more money in a year or two.
I think he will prefer 1-2 years so it lines up when the cap goes up and fans are back in the stands.
He'll be 29 if two year deal and likely earn a new deal at $5 million+ if he can produce 30ish pts and be a consistent top 4 D. Similar to Brodie's deal.

If he locks up long term now, he takes the chance of losing millions as this may be his last big payday.
A 4-5 year deal takes him to around 31-32 years old and could be under $4 mil per with covid prices.
With his limited resume, seems his path will be free agency asap and chase a bigger deal at 27/28 years old.
Someone may give him a 5 year deal @ $5 to 5.5 million if he stays healthy.

 

[Starat327]

I'm not a fan of trading Ghost in just about any deal.

But if AV is gonna continue to not utilize him properly, this is probably a deal I do and figure out the ED later.

That said, most of the risk resides with Florida, so if Zito had any interest in this deal and was smart, he'd get some sort of additional asset out of it.

 

[HockeyRulez]

I'm not a fan of trading Ghost in just about any deal.

But if AV is gonna continue to not utilize him properly, this is probably a deal I do and figure out the ED later.

That said, most of the risk resides with Florida, so if Zito had any interest in this deal and was smart, he'd get some sort of additional asset out of it.

By all means throw in a mid round pick lol