Fitness and Nutrition VIII
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DramaticGloveSave
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I find it easier to digest as the blender does alot of the breaking down for you. Though it's important to not just gulp it down as your saliva is still necessary during the digestion process.
waffledave
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The stuff I use has 10g sugar in one serving. It's about the same as oatmeal unless you're just having plain oats. And there's 5g of fibre too so it's not so bad.
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DramaticGloveSave
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Vector just has protein powder in it, does it not? Probably better to just use real granola and a high quality protein powder instead.
waffledave
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This works too, just trying to suggest something as simple and quick as oatmeal.
Mrb1p
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I do not digest whey protein, or like the taste at all, so its a no-no for me.
I think I'll try to eat two banana PB rice cakes before, see where that takes me.
I think I'll try to eat two banana PB rice cakes before, see where that takes me.
Mrb1p
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Asking for the beginners around here
If your form was shit on the big lifts, would you want someone to tell you and help or just let you figure it out on your own?
If your form was shit on the big lifts, would you want someone to tell you and help or just let you figure it out on your own?
Not a beginner but also not one to personally do what you are implying (give advice to strangers). But, remembering back to when I was a beginner I think I would have appreciated a kind approach and some gentle suggestions to improve my form...I mean who wouldn't?
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Mrb1p
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groovejuice
Without deviation progress is not possible
I'd personally appreciate a heads up from someone with experience. Bad form while lifting big weight is an open invitation to potentially serious injury.
One's ego shouldn't enter into it for even a second.
Mike Mike Caron
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Mrb1p
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Ill probably try and approach him next time. Its my 12th year in this gym and hes by far the worst Ive ever seen. Like, I cringe hard when he squats or deadlifts.
Well, he wont injure himself squatting 315 for 5 degrees, but deadlifts yeah.
Mike Mike Caron
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Just ask him if he wants advices on his form. Personally, i see this as free advices you usually pay for, but I have a martial art background and when a higher belt gives you advices it's like a bit of a private class.
DAChampion
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Peter Attia did a 7 day water fast as an n=1 experiment and took a zillion blood tests.
#11 - AMA #2: the Nothingburger — results from Peter’s week-long fast between two weeks of nutritional ketosis — and answering questions on all things fasting - Peter Attia
He said that he wanted to be saving money on food (a joke?) but that he wants to understand fasting better. For example, he has absolutely no idea which fasting protocol is best, and he says that prpproba nobody knows, but he'd like to research it later. It is not known how frequent fasts should be, how long they should be, and how that depends on the person.
Blood tests were all weird. Testosterone and insulin crashed to very low levels, some of his thyroid numbers were the worst he has seen, and he quoted lots of different cholesterol numbers that I did not understand .
Some subjective changes:
- sense of calmness and high concentration, for example he noticed that he stopped putting his earphones on
- better sleep, he says that he wishes that he could sleep that way all of the time. In contrast, he has had terrible sleep when doing the fasting-mimicking diet of roughly 700 calories/day.
- no loss of strength during weightlifting. He estimates that he lost no measurable amount of lean tissue, and maybe 6 lbs of fat.
- some laziness for movements, he was sluggish walking, he took more taxis for routes for which he's never taken cabs. His wattage on some "peloton" workout (???) dropped by a lot. He says that relative to his former self he was at least 60-80 watts less capable.
- his chronic pain in one spot went away, and almost went away in another spot. He said that the fast was worth it just for that.
I've never tested my strength to that level of detail during a long fast. This guy was doing squats, etc. He followed exactly the same program as he does when not fasting.
I do get sluggish walking, but I force myself to walk to stimulate gluconeogenesis.
The heightened sense of awareness is incredible, I wish that I could maintain it all of the time lol.
@DramaticGloveSave is enraged by this post, as fasting is the ultimate carnivore diet: calories during fasting come from 100% fatty cuts of human meat ;-)
#11 - AMA #2: the Nothingburger — results from Peter’s week-long fast between two weeks of nutritional ketosis — and answering questions on all things fasting - Peter Attia
He said that he wanted to be saving money on food (a joke?) but that he wants to understand fasting better. For example, he has absolutely no idea which fasting protocol is best, and he says that prpproba nobody knows, but he'd like to research it later. It is not known how frequent fasts should be, how long they should be, and how that depends on the person.
Blood tests were all weird. Testosterone and insulin crashed to very low levels, some of his thyroid numbers were the worst he has seen, and he quoted lots of different cholesterol numbers that I did not understand .
Some subjective changes:
- sense of calmness and high concentration, for example he noticed that he stopped putting his earphones on
- better sleep, he says that he wishes that he could sleep that way all of the time. In contrast, he has had terrible sleep when doing the fasting-mimicking diet of roughly 700 calories/day.
- no loss of strength during weightlifting. He estimates that he lost no measurable amount of lean tissue, and maybe 6 lbs of fat.
- some laziness for movements, he was sluggish walking, he took more taxis for routes for which he's never taken cabs. His wattage on some "peloton" workout (???) dropped by a lot. He says that relative to his former self he was at least 60-80 watts less capable.
- his chronic pain in one spot went away, and almost went away in another spot. He said that the fast was worth it just for that.
I've never tested my strength to that level of detail during a long fast. This guy was doing squats, etc. He followed exactly the same program as he does when not fasting.
I do get sluggish walking, but I force myself to walk to stimulate gluconeogenesis.
The heightened sense of awareness is incredible, I wish that I could maintain it all of the time lol.
@DramaticGloveSave is enraged by this post, as fasting is the ultimate carnivore diet: calories during fasting come from 100% fatty cuts of human meat ;-)
DramaticGloveSave
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lol I actually have seen some folks have great results from fasting. I think there are a few different ways to make it work though. This is purely anecdotal, but recently due to my schedule I've essentially been having 2 massive eating sessions a day- one in the morning and one in the evening. In a way I'm doing two mini fasts a day, and as a result I've seen some loss in body fat- despite being sure my overall calories are the same. Just an accidental finding that perhaps is just working for me for who knows why. Only downside is my gut protrudes after meals just due to the pure amount of food I've stuffed down despite being lean. Again, purely anecdotal, but something I've noticed.
DAChampion
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How do you know if you're eating the exact same amount though? How are you measuring that? You sure theres absolutely no changes?
DramaticGloveSave
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Fine. I get very hungry down the stretch before dinner but that’s it in terms of negatives.
DramaticGloveSave
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I’m eating the exact same meals, I’m just eating them in two sessions. Before I’d have my smoothie in the morning, a sandwich for lunch early afternoon, a protein shake post workout later afternoon, and then dinner in the evening. All I’ve really changed is I’m eating my sandwich while I drink my smoothie in the morning and eating dinner right when I get home from the gym.
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I'm actually on the 4th day of a water+tea+coffee fast. Though I cheated and hat two lattes, so it is 400 calories over 4 days.
I gained like 20 lbs since my surgery, due to not being allowed to exercise for six weeks after the surgery, and having a lot of travel which causes jet lag, abd also I like to eat when traveling. I'd like to lose it, to fit into my old clothes, to feel better, etc.
I am following a standard trajectory. The first few days were tiring and low energy. Now it's day 4 and I'm sleeping better and have better concentration, by tomorrow I'll be euphoric, lol.
I can confirm that sex drive drops during a fast.
In the long run, I absolutely need to learn better eating habits while traveling. I'll be in Italy from May 24th - June 2nd, I am not sure how much I should gorge, lol. After that, I don't have any international trips for a while.
The hardest part of fasting for me is the variable willpower, and the fact that it is anti social.
I gained like 20 lbs since my surgery, due to not being allowed to exercise for six weeks after the surgery, and having a lot of travel which causes jet lag, abd also I like to eat when traveling. I'd like to lose it, to fit into my old clothes, to feel better, etc.
I am following a standard trajectory. The first few days were tiring and low energy. Now it's day 4 and I'm sleeping better and have better concentration, by tomorrow I'll be euphoric, lol.
I can confirm that sex drive drops during a fast.
In the long run, I absolutely need to learn better eating habits while traveling. I'll be in Italy from May 24th - June 2nd, I am not sure how much I should gorge, lol. After that, I don't have any international trips for a while.
The hardest part of fasting for me is the variable willpower, and the fact that it is anti social.
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Depends of who you're talking about and the relation you have with the guy.
If you don't know him, to cold approach him and fix his form, he might actually not like it.
If you already had some kind of contact with him, feel free to do so.
Everything depends of what you consider shit form. I know for a fact I had been talking with some huge guy in my gym and I actually asked him about his squat shoes. We talked a few minutes and I was doing deadlifts. He ended up telling me to try to deadlift without my shoes on. Best advice anyone has given me. To this day we're actually pretty cool with one another and chat a bit everytime we come across in the gym.
I guess it's all about who you're talking to and how you approach him.
I think if you cold approach some 20-23 years old douchebag with a cap on and chains around his neck, he might give you some attitude.
If you cold approach someone who's in his early 30's and looks like he's working as hard as he can, I think he'll take any sound advice to heart.
Also, it's all about you approach the guy. If you just come up and say "Man... your form SUCKS!". He'll probably get annoyed. If you just approach him by suggesting something and bringing one tangible fix to his technique, which he can try right away, I think he'll be more opened to any subsequent suggestions you have on his form.
DramaticGloveSave
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I truly believe the best and most effective way to lose weight is committing to a lifestyle change. Fasting as you are is not far removed from the old "crash diet"- and it'll likely lead to binge eating in the future. It'll be effective in the short term as you aren't eating, but not something I'd do unless you are trying to fit in a suit for a wedding or something. Not eating is not healthy.
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