Wewillrise
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Fire Ken Holland
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DingDongCharlie
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Holland isn’t the problem. Chiarelli left the team without depth and in cap hell. Next season we finally have the cap to actually address team needs.
These boards suck after a loss. Everyone was for the most part pleased with what Holland did this off season with limited/little actual cap space.
10 games later. Fire Holland. All his moves suck. What’s that saying about hindsight? If you crapped on the deals when they happen then hey have at it. Take a bow whatever. If you didn’t go cheer for Markstrom and the Flames.
These boards suck after a loss. Everyone was for the most part pleased with what Holland did this off season with limited/little actual cap space.
10 games later. Fire Holland. All his moves suck. What’s that saying about hindsight? If you crapped on the deals when they happen then hey have at it. Take a bow whatever. If you didn’t go cheer for Markstrom and the Flames.
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How happy would you be if Markstrom agreed to 5x7?
I would have been f***ing livid.
KeithIsActuallyBad
You thrust your pelvis, huh!
It’s always next year with this team. Who are we going to sign? And more importantly, how are we going to shed our slew of awful contracts, some of which were added under Holland?
DingDongCharlie
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25 million in cap space verses 7 this season. If you can’t see that alone opens options via UFA or trade I can’t help you.
I knew someone would throw that always next season thing out. Typical. What do you actually expect Holland to have accomplished to this past off season without cap?
CantHaveTkachev
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he's a legit starter, something we haven't had since Roloson FFS
tough pill sure...but we win tonight with him in the net instead of the goaltending Holland cobbled together this year
it'll doom their season if things don't change...mark my words
What do you mean shed?
Khaira, Chiasson, Russell, Pouliot, Smith.
That's like 10 mil gone just on expiring deals and Russell going from 4 to 1.25
CantHaveTkachev
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I'm sure Connor and Leon love to hear that next year the Oilers will be half-decent
it only took 8 years in the league to get there!
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I wanted them to trade a first for Kuemper instead (Markstrom will likely look bad in 2-3 seasons at most)
From what it sounded like Armstrong was asking for too much for any and all of his assets this offseason.
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DingDongCharlie
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Welcome to reality I guess cause there was no making them a contender instantly after the situation Chiarelli left the team in.
There is no short term fix for the team. There’s too many holes and no cap space.
You guys literally want to fire Holland for the mess of a former GM. There’s not a single GM right now that turns this around this season with limited tradable assets and no cap space. The long game is the only viable play. Not saying I like it or Conor or Draisaitl do but that’s the reality of the situation.
CantHaveTkachev
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I don't think being better than 3 teams in the division is asking for a "contender"
they should be "average" at least
Probably not but probably no playoffs either then.
And then in the summer they probably have to spend a 1st anyway to get an upgrade.
DingDongCharlie
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Would be great if we were. I agree I’d like to see more from this group as a whole.
KeithIsActuallyBad
You thrust your pelvis, huh!
There is no guarantee that all of them will vanish. Holland could very well extend at least one of them.
Jesus Take the Wheel
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Ahh I see people still think that making trades and signing players works like it does in be a gm mode on nhl21
CantHaveTkachev
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yes we know, trades are hard
best to bring back two inconsistent and shaky goalies who can't come up with a big save as proven in the play-ins...maybe this time it'll be different!
DingDongCharlie
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Chiarelli extended Koskinen to that brutal contract so he wasn’t going anywhere. I didn’t want Smith back but he tried for Markstrom and Greiss. They both decided to sign elsewhere. Maybe if we had more cap available he could have convinced Markstrom to sign but just as likely everywhere would have been complaining a year or two into said contract that he overpaid a UFA goalie.
Jesus Take the Wheel
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Nahh you're right, lets give up assets for a goaltender that'll likely also be inconsistent and shaky instead
CantHaveTkachev
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I wonder if the Flames are mad they signed Markstrom to a long contract after they stole 2 points from us....
KeithIsActuallyBad
You thrust your pelvis, huh!
DingDongCharlie
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He would have been a good option for sure. Wasn’t he moved before the free agency period opened though? Honestly can’t remember. Holland was clearly gunning for Markstrom though.
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if you have good pro-scouting you can identify good goalies like Kuemper and or of the CBJ goalies
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