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hohosaregood

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I’m bringing this back. He never should have made it past December.
He's probably on the hot seat considering DW had to do that players meeting and the assistants had to get shuffled. I think he's a capable coach but his time here is basically up.
 
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sharks_dynasty

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I’m on the fire Deboer bandwagon. It should have happened in the season, but they gave us false hope when they turned the season around. Now I will no longer be fooled by their trickery! Till next year of course.

It’s going to be a long summer. When is the draft again?
 
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RoloTonyBrownTown

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NSFW warning, this is borderline pornographic: Just imagine if this team had literally any other half-competent coach and a league average goaltender in net. Sweet lord.
 

Dicdonya

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No fire DW and Deboer.

DW made a Hail Mary play with Karlsson, it’s has failed miserably, you know what happens when a Hail Mary play fails. You lose.

You lose again DW, time for a new leader.
 
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TomasHertlsRooster

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No fire DW and Deboer.

DW made a Hail Mary play with Karlsson, it’s has failed miserably, you know what happens when a Hail Mary play fails. You lose.

You lose again DW, time for a new leader.

Yup. It’s time. He did a lot of great things, and he will always get a lot of credit from me for them.

But it’s time to go.
 

Coily

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No fire DW and Deboer.

DW made a Hail Mary play with Karlsson, it’s has failed miserably, you know what happens when a Hail Mary play fails. You lose.

You lose again DW, time for a new leader.
Not to be "that guy", but I fear our new GM would be Tim Burke.
 

Lebanezer

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No fire DW and Deboer.

DW made a Hail Mary play with Karlsson, it’s has failed miserably, you know what happens when a Hail Mary play fails. You lose.

You lose again DW, time for a new leader.
I’m not saying I disagree with the sentiment, but I don’t think Doug is gonna get fired.
 
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Dicdonya

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I’m not saying I disagree with the sentiment, but I don’t think Doug is gonna get fired.

Then we are no better than Edmonton.

DW now has this team with no picks, several bad contracts, two of our better players are 50 years old, Karlsson was useless for us this year on the whole, and if we do resign him, no cap space. He has a coach who in 4 years has been unable to improve this team from the first year, and is now getting bent over by Gallant yet again.

If our owner cannot see the writing on the wall, we may as well be EDM, 16 years of failing to win even one cup is plenty.
 
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Lebanezer

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Then we are no better than Edmonton.

DW no has this team with no picks, several bad contracts, two of our better players are 50 years old, Karlsson was useless for us this year on the whole, and if we do resign him, no cap space. He has a coach who in 4 years has been unable to improve this team from the first year, and is now getting bent over by Gallant yet again.
Karlsson is injured and can’t do shit. If he’s re-signed he has to get back to 100% otherwise he’s Havlat. Couture deserves a chance to bounce back. Jones doesn’t, and will probably be waived. We have more talent and depth than Edmonton. Deboer has been awful and has to be fired. Maybe Doug is the one to do it, maybe it’s someone else, but the situation isn’t that bad.
 
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OrrNumber4

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No fire DW and Deboer.

DW made a Hail Mary play with Karlsson, it’s has failed miserably, you know what happens when a Hail Mary play fails. You lose.

You lose again DW, time for a new leader.

I wouldn't call it a hail mary in the sense that at the time, it looked like a really good trade. There was perhaps a 5% risk of what happened happening, and it happened.

Like it has always been said. to some extent you have to judge a GM on the process, and some, on the results. This is a particular trade where I think it was a great process and very underwhelming results.

Then we are no better than Edmonton.

DW now has this team with no picks, several bad contracts, two of our better players are 50 years old, Karlsson was useless for us this year on the whole, and if we do resign him, no cap space. He has a coach who in 4 years has been unable to improve this team from the first year, and is now getting bent over by Gallant yet again.

If our owner cannot see the writing on the wall, we may as well be EDM, 16 years of failing to win even one cup is plenty.

There is a legitimate possibility that the pick Ottawa has next year is a top-10 pick. The Sharks have, what, a fourth rounder this year? And, what, a second rounder next year? Perhaps one bluechip prospect in the system (depending on who you ask)...

On top of that, you have a couple of potential albatross contracts on the books (I'd say remove "potential" from Couture), and knowing DW he'll probably give Karlsson and Pavelski one's as well to save his job.

Accountability starts at the top.
 
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PackShark

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Don’t blame DW for this. He’s assembled a very competitive roster. The system sucks and we got away from a defense first mentality that made us successful with far inferior rosters under DeBoer. DeBoer has really mismanaged this roster with the best talent he’s had here. I respect what he’s done. Is he the right guy moving forward? I don’t know.
 
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Dicdonya

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Karlsson is injured and can’t do ****. If he’s re-signed he has to get back to 100% otherwise he’s Havlat. Couture deserves a chance to bounce back. Jones doesn’t, and will probably be waived. We have more talent and depth than Edmonton. Deboer has been awful and has to be fired. Maybe Doug is the one to do it, maybe it’s someone else, but the situation isn’t that bad.

I get it, I’m not blaming Karlsson for being hurt, but that was DWs big answer for this year and it failed. Same story every year. DW makes seemingly wonderful trades , and for whatever reason they never work.

Cooch has been mediocre for a couple years. He probably will get a chance to bounce back because I highly doubt he gets traded with that contract.

Jones I could care less, if he stays though we have to have a new coach. There is zero chance Jones plays well in this system. So either get a goalie that can, or a coach who utilizes a different system.

I know we have more talent than EDM. I said we would be no better than EDM in regards to having a bitch owner who won’t axe his GM if DW stays.

16 years of failure to do what you’re job is, build a cup winning team, is enough. If our owner is too scared to make a change, we have as much hope of a cup as EDM does.
 

Doctor Soraluce

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Karlsson is injured and can’t do ****. If he’s re-signed he has to get back to 100% otherwise he’s Havlat. Couture deserves a chance to bounce back. Jones doesn’t, and will probably be waived. We have more talent and depth than Edmonton. Deboer has been awful and has to be fired. Maybe Doug is the one to do it, maybe it’s someone else, but the situation isn’t that bad.
No way. Couture has to go. He makes more than Kane and doesn't bring near the value. If people are hating on Kane for his contract they should be rioting at DW's house for Couture contract after this season and playoffs.
 

Doctor Soraluce

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I get it, I’m not blaming Karlsson for being hurt, but that was DWs big answer for this year and it failed. Same story every year. DW makes seemingly wonderful trades , and for whatever reason they never work.

Cooch has been mediocre for a couple years. He probably will get a chance to bounce back because I highly doubt he gets traded with that contract.

Jones I could care less, if he stays though we have to have a new coach. There is zero chance Jones plays well in this system. So either get a goalie that can, or a coach who utilizes a different system.

I know we have more talent than EDM. I said we would be no better than EDM in regards to having a ***** owner who won’t axe his GM if DW stays.

16 years of failure to do what you’re job is, build a cup winning team, is enough. If our owner is too scared to make a change, we have as much hope of a cup as EDM does.
I blame DW for not addressing the goaltending in some fashion at the deadline, I blame the coach for playing Jones far past his expiration date and his dumb shit pickup hockey defensive system. I don't blame DW for that EK65 trade. That's a fleecing no matter how you look at it. The Haley pickup was likely made out of a good intention to help a familiar player but it's PDBs fault for playing him so much and in the playoffs.
 

Lebanezer

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I get it, I’m not blaming Karlsson for being hurt, but that was DWs big answer for this year and it failed. Same story every year. DW makes seemingly wonderful trades , and for whatever reason they never work.

Cooch has been mediocre for a couple years. He probably will get a chance to bounce back because I highly doubt he gets traded with that contract.

Jones I could care less, if he stays though we have to have a new coach. There is zero chance Jones plays well in this system. So either get a goalie that can, or a coach who utilizes a different system.

I know we have more talent than EDM. I said we would be no better than EDM in regards to having a ***** owner who won’t axe his GM if DW stays.

16 years of failure to do what you’re job is, build a cup winning team, is enough. If our owner is too scared to make a change, we have as much hope of a cup as EDM does.
That’s fair, I don’t know what Plattner’s orders are for Doug. Is it about winning it all, or just being competitive every year.

No way. Couture has to go. He makes more than Kane and doesn't bring near the value. If people are hating on Kane for his contract they should be rioting at DW's house for Couture contract after this season and playoffs.
I agree with you, I think Couture should be shopped. I was just guessing at what will actually happen.
 
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Mafoofoo

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Leave Debeor in Vegas. I hope that piece of garbage never sets foot in a Sharks facility ever again.

What a waste with the talent he was given.
 
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