Fire AV, Fire Sather. This is a bad hockey team.

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  1. Kel Varnsen

    Kel Varnsen Below: Nash's Heart

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    We have this thread every year, and we need it right now. Disgusting product out there. You get embarrassed 9-2 and come out the next game only to go down 3-0 next time in the first? Hell Sam Rosen himself even said, "This game could easily be 6-0."

    Asham, how the **** do you not know that you're not allowed to take your own helmet off before a fight?! You have like one job, and you don't even know how to do it. That's like if a burger flipper didn't know it was against company policy rules to use his bare hands to flip the burgers.

    And AV, you're not in Vancouver anymore. These forwards SUCK! Start coaching the team you have and not the team you want. As for Sather, Torts was doing what he was doing strat wise out of NECESSITY! Maybe you'll realize that after watching this crap, but the damage is already done. You gave up real team for Nash and then fired the one guy holding them together.

    It's going to be a long year boys and girls.
     
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  2. Dr. Ogrodnick

    Dr. Ogrodnick Registered User

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    Obviously its too early to fire AV, but at what point is it no longer too early to fire AV? This team is such a complete mess right now, what if this goes on another 10 games? 15? If it gets to the point that the season is unrecoverable, how could you keep him?
     
  3. GordonGecko

    GordonGecko Why was Ron DuGuay Fired...

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    Yes, years ending in the Stanley Cup Finals tend to be long.

    Give me a healthy team up to speed on the new system 20 games in, and if they still play like this then I'll be worried. Until then, we have all the pieces and they will come together
     
  4. RangersFan

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    It's all Neil Smith's fault in Sather's mind.
     
  5. I Am Chariot

    I Am Chariot One shift at a time

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    20 games is fair...but man this is painful. Is it me or had MDZ just look like he's regressed?
     
  6. Brooklyn Rangers Fan

    Brooklyn Rangers Fan Change is good.

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    Hey, if the ****** play gets Slats fired, that's worth it, right?

    Unfortunately, I'm afraid Slats has attended every one of JD and the Straight Shot's shows, so he's not going anywhere until he decides it's time to retire.
     
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    The problem isn't AV. It all comes down to the roster.

    AV is a good coach, but this roster just isn't getting it done. Stop acting like Torts is a savior and the only good coach in the league.
     
  8. Anthony Eclair

    Anthony Eclair Anthony Eclair

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    Although on some levels I agree with you, we can't fire AV too soon and you're probably ragequitting on the Rangers as I would think most fans feel like doing. It's understandable though no doubt
     
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    It's not fire everyone time.

    But we're certainly going down that path.
     
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    Two years ago, when the original "bad hockey team" thread was posted, I disagreed. The team had trouble scoring and they were very undisciplined, but the effort was there and the games they lost were close. The defense was surprisingly solid without Staal and Lundqvist was spectacular.

    Now, I am at a loss for words. It's unbelievable how quickly they went from a hard-working, tough as nails team to this nonsense.
     
  11. Kel Varnsen

    Kel Varnsen Below: Nash's Heart

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    I agree with you on all those points.
     
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    I think someone hacked into Kels account. Mods...check into this.
     
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    I haven't been on this site in years but I felt compelled to come back...

    It's too early to blame it on the coach. There's certainly enough evidence to place blame on the GM. This team as constructed, is not built to compete in today's NHL.
     
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    Can't blame AV for trying to implement his philosophy. He's a new coach with new personnel, there has to be a buffer for him to adjust his strategy.
     
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    M Gaz Goalie Killer

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    This team is not capable of playing an offensive system. Simple as that.
     
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    Well here's what happens next:

    Pyatt and Asham are done, in come some speedy, hungry kids. :dunno:
     
  17. Kel Varnsen

    Kel Varnsen Below: Nash's Heart

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    This isn't a buffering or adjusting period. This is an incompetent period. He's not teaching them from torts system to a west coast offense or a 3-4 defense. He might as well be though because this isn't hockey I'm watching
     
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    HockeyBasedNYC Back-checking Center

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    14 goals in 4 1/2 periods.

    I knew there would be some some growing pains but this is ridiculous.

    They aren't even competitive.

    Unwatchable. Disgusting.
     
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    Don't disagree, this team is disheveled. But the blame can't be on a new coach three games into the season. There's greater problems than system, especially a new system.
     
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    I'm usually not one to overreact...but I have NEVER seen anything like this. I'm almost hoping that I wake up tomorrow and find out Laviolette is our new coach...
     
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    nyranger61494 YNWA

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    "No, no, no. LAST year was unwatchable."-Glen Sather

    And Vigneault switching lines up is the rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic analogy. Sather is the problem.
     
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    The following guys need to be sent down or traded ASAP
    Pyatt he brings nothing to this team
    Del Z go to the oilers and have fun your horrible
    Boyle guy doesn't do anything well
    Dom Moore game has passed him by
    Stralman horrible in own zone afraid to hit
    Asham. Haley is cheaper and hungrier


    Sit hanks ass for 2 games and make him focus .. Yes d in front of him is horrible but my god the softies need to stop..

    Get Kreider and Miller here now and roll four lines
     
  23. Kel Varnsen

    Kel Varnsen Below: Nash's Heart

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    Of course it can be. You think this is just normal "growing pains"? ********. Look at what Torts is doing up in Vancouver. They've been great. So much for system concerns.
     
  24. ChrisKreider20

    ChrisKreider20 But y u mad?

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    fire AV? lol
    This is a personnel issue.

    This team went downhill when we flushed away our depth for Rick Nash, a born loser. We further cemented it when we traded Gaborik.
    This is a firesale worthy team.

    Trade Nash while he still has value
    Trade Lundqvist before he leaves
    Trade Staal to the Canes, Trade Girardi
    Buyout Richards next year
    Trade anyone over 26..

    Rebuild this thing...
     
  25. M Gaz

    M Gaz Goalie Killer

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    Yeah if AV wants to run an offensive system, then there needs to be a big overhaul this summer.
     
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