Final Team Canada Roster Set

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  1. Brock

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    Brodziak is the only real surprise IMO.

    If White is too injured to play and will hurt the team, then he's got to go, so no real surprise there unfortunately for him.

    From all accounts and from the OUA Games, Mike Egener, Corey Perry, JDD and Ward seemed like appropriate cuts.

    But Brodziak was fairly impressive and I'm a little baffled why he was cut, IMO he should have made the team over Colliton or Dixon.
     
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    why is everyone so surprised that Perry was cut....the kid can't skate. I had the opportunity to watch most of the weekend, and although he has a great set of hands, he had trouble keeping up with his linemates. I don't think offense will be an issue...what I am worried about is our defense (in particular our forwards coming back). Too many of the kids were just out there for a skate, only pushing it one way.
     
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    Which is probably the reason why Colliton made the team even though his camp was mediocore.

    Colliton is a good two way forward and brings a lot of character to the team, things you can't properly grade until the real tournament begins.
     
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    Time for everyone to get their panties out of the knot they're in and start looking at what a solid team Canada has this year. This team, although young, has depth in every facet of the game. The only thing that may work against this team is their "inexperience", but it's even hard to say that because most have played in international tournaments before. I usually don't like to compare junior teams, but I wasn't too excited about last year's team and they brought home a silver (which I thought was unbelievable going in with the players they had). As far as I'm concerned, this year, the sky is the limit...
     
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    10 WHLers made the team, which apparently might be the highest total ever

    hard to accuse the coach of Q favouritism I would think?
     
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    I'm quite suprised to see Perry get cut and Deslauries as well. I thought both of these guys could provide alot for the team. Although Harding is a great goaltender as well and it was pretty much a toss up between JDD and Harding. The toughest cut to swallow was Ian White for me. It's to bad he's hurt he really could have brought alot of leadership to the team as well as his great offensive abilities. I'm pretty confident with the team we have. I think we can match up easily with any other team in the tournament. So congrats to everyone who made it (espically Crosby, Dixon, and Talbot) and GL in Finland!!!

    GO CANADA GO!!!!
     
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    depends. Maybe he didn't want it at 11?
     
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    Heh. Sad to see Perry go, but I'm happy to have him here to help out the Knights.

    I don't know about Talbot and Brent as the 'A's, I think guys like Phaneuf and Stewart would have been better choices. Not a big deal, though.

    I like our chances, and my bet is on Phaneuf becoming this year's fan favourite (Fleury doesn't count :p ).
     
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    Will this generate any Canadian goodwill toward the two oft-maligned teams that _did_ release players?
     
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    Good point, it seems that most people look for offence when trying to decide the "best" team. However, I remember back to last year with the Under 18 roster and people critizized Colliton for making the team saying he's all defence and they need offence, offence, offence. I think he ended up with 6 points in 7 games and was Canada's main penalty killer.

    As for the backup goalie, I don't really think its such a big deal. They'll only get to play one game cause the team is Fleury's team so i really don't see why guys can be upset with Harding making it over JDD, honestly they could've taken anyone of the three and they'd do an alright job. I am really excited bout this team and am pumped about the puck being dropped Dec. 26.
     
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    And yet the guy that outscores all of them, can't?
     
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    The only thing that Minny gets maligned for is style of play.

    (And that is a marginal malignation :D if you ask me. I watched them last night on Centre Ice and came away enjoying their game. Although it looks like if you put enough pressure on their blueline, you can generate some chances...Doan, Langkow, Nagy were really cycling at times...)

    But as far as the WJCs go, they are a stellar organization in seeing the benefit of letting the juniors go. Bravo Minny. :bow:
     
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    That is unless Fleury gets injured, but we won't even begin to think about that.

    IMO Harding was the right choice. He is the reigning CHL goaltender of the Year and he came into this camp and performed well. He deserved his chance to play against the Ukraine on the 29th. :D
     
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    Everyone complains about the last few cuts each year. This is nothing new. Obviously those guys get paid to pick the team, we are not around the players like they are. Maybe Brodziak or Perry werent as willing to play a strickly defensive role as Colliton. None of us know that.

    Also Jeff DD and Harding was a toss up. Flip a coin. I still have no confidence in Jeff DD though, i have seen him stink up the Q for too many games in 1.5 years.
     
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    Just the type of guy I want to talk to....

    Here is what I know...I look at the stats and I see JDD with some, iffy to say the least GGA and Sv % stats. Then I see him at Oilers camp and he looks like a seasoned veteran, on par with guys like Salo and Conklin.

    I hear many people including writers and of course Oilers fans say "Well he is a good goalie on a bad team." Then I wonder what the truth is.

    So what is it. Is he a top prospect? Is he the only goalie in the Oilers system so they have to pump him up? Do some people just want to overlook his deficiencies?
     
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    Thats a tough question. I was never a Jeff DD fan when he was 17, i thought he was hyped up far too much only because of his big size. He never really stood out in the Q. There are about 10 others goalies in the Q i would rather have on my team. That being said, whenever he goes to Pro camps or Canada camps he seems to play well. It is odd to say the least.

    It also doesnt help that every time he plays in Halifax he seems to get lit up. He allowed a goal from half this year.

    I wouldnt have any confidence in him, if he was forced into a game for Canada because he has never really impressed me.

    That being said the Oilers seem to be high on him.
     
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    Glad to see that Meech made it. On the side note to be fair I don't really see where Brodziak sp would of fit in on any lines as he seemed to be jumping all over the place in intersquad games. But I do agree he played well enough to make the team ahead of some of the defencive specialists. Perry Imo didn't have a great camp, but still managed to put up some points. I said it before and I will say it again we really don't have much fire power up front this year. We took too many grinders and defencive specialists. I wish we would have gone with some more pure skill guys like Locke, Perry etc..
     
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    Canada is going to try and win 1-0, 2-1 games.

    We have a pretty mobile young D plus MAF and a few 2 way guys up front. I think Canada realized that we probably wont win the Gold this year so they went all out with 18 year olds.

    Look out next year though.

    I think almost the entire team can come back.
     
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    Line combos

    How do you think the line combos will end up?
     
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    I think a lot of the players could have been good choices for the A's, in regards to Talbot, he's a great leader for the Olympic, plays hard and gritty, good skater, kills penatlies and can play on the PP...a solid all around player that is a leader on Gatineau, as for Brent...i don't know, but i'm sure he has similar credentials
     
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    When you look at the last 3 games Canada played last year, the scores were very close (3-2 loss to Russia, 3-2 win vs US, 5-3 win vs Finland) -not a bad tactic to focus on those types of games!
     
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    i thought harding was the second best goalie there. as for brodizak he shoulda made iit over colliton. as for perry, he look very bad. he wasnt very fast or strong on the puck, i was very disappointed with him, im glad he was cut. i agree with the D picks, egner wasnt good. talbot and dixion played well.
     
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    This team sucks compared to previous years. We will be lucky to finish in the top 5 with this squad. There are far better players availble that weren't even invited to camp. Whoever picks these players screws over the QMJHL every year. Its like they don't want fast skaters that can put the puck in the net. Normally when you play on big ice its an advatange to have quicker guys. I have no problem keeping the big defense men from the WHL on the blueline. But in tournament like these you need players that can score goals and win games. When your so solid defensively, you don`t have to worry so much about the forwards and you can let them score. Having 18 players from the WHL invited, and 9 from the Q is just ******ed. They didn't even take the top 9 players in the QMJHL anyone, theres lots of talent missing from team canada this year, that should be on the team. Just cuz most of them are french doesn`t mean they don`t deserve to represent thier country. Im english, and I don`t care much for most french people, but they still deserve to be on the team.
     
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    Your whole argument is thrown out the window because the head coach is from the QMJHL.
     
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    For the most part I agree with the cuts. Ward was an obvious cut and same was Deslauries. Harding out performed both of them and he deserved the backup spot.

    As for the defence, I would have liked it to see Ian White there but he still hadn't played a game so taking him would have been a huge gamble. I also think that Egener was an obvious cut.

    The forwards I thought were hard to cut. I thought Perry was going to be a lock to make this team but he didn't play well in both of the OUA games. Brodziak I dont agree with because he had a solid camp. I would have taken him instead of Dixon.
     
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