Player Discussion Filip Chytil: Part II (Chytil to miss rest of 2023-24 Season)

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[Ainec]

Top 5 in a 2017 NHL re-draft

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

Top 5 in a 2017 NHL re-draft

Absolutely.

Makar
Pettersson
Heiskanen
Chytil
Necas

Man, to think we were 2 spots from getting one of those first three in addition to Filip...

(By the same token, you can see why none of those teams was willing to trade out.)

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Top 5 in a 2017 NHL re-draft

Definitely top-10 but I put him just outside the top-5

1. Makar
2. Pettersson
3. Heiskanen
4. Hischier
5. Necas
6. Glass
7. Chytil
8. Brännström
9. Thomas
10. Jokiharju

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

Definitely top-10 but I put him just outside the top-5

1. Makar
2. Pettersson
3. Heiskanen
4. Hischier
5. Necas
6. Glass
7. Chytil
8. Brännström
9. Thomas
10. Jokiharju

I may be alone in this, but I’m just not that impressed with Hischier. I think when all is said and done the 2 Czechs will both have better careers.

We’re totally talking personal preference here, but I’m curious: why do you have a) Necas, and especially, b) Glass ahead of Chytil?

Edit: also, amazing to see Patrick drop out. I agree, but amazing nonetheless.

 

[Ainec]

Pettersson
Heiskanen
Makar
Chytil
Necas
Hischier
Thomas
Glass/Batherson
Comtois/Jokiharju

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

I may be alone in this, but I’m just not that impressed with Hischier. I think when all is said and done the 2 Czechs will both have better careers.

We’re totally talking personal preference here, but I’m curious: why do you have a) Necas, and especially, b) Glass ahead of Chytil?

Edit: also, amazing to see Patrick drop out. I agree, but amazing nonetheless.

Hischier is a really good center playing top-line minutes at the age of 20. 52 and 47 (in 69) points in his first 2 seasons at that position is something that puts him in the top-5 for me, not even taking his defensive responsibilities into account.

 

[Speedtrials]

I think Nico will be the better complete player in this league. Offensively Chytil, I can see having a higher upside. Being a consistent center in the nhl is no easy task though, but its exciting to watch his game grow.

 

[Ghost of jas]

I think Chytil's size is what gives him a potentially different dynamic than Hischier. Hischier is a quality center and is a likely consistent 60-70 point producer going forward. I also think he's more polished than Chytil. You get the sense with Chytil that he's still learning the frontiers of his abilities.

 

[ElLeetch]

Definitely top-10 but I put him just outside the top-5

1. Makar
2. Pettersson
3. Heiskanen
4. Hischier
5. Necas
6. Glass
7. Chytil
8. Brännström
9. Thomas
10. Jokiharju

This is about right. In hindsight, i think if we took Chytil at 7 and Lias at 21, we'd be over the moon for this draft. Taken at 7, Chytil would be right on track, and taken at 21, most would feel Lias was either on track, or even ahead of where he should be.

 

[Rangerfan4life90]

This is about right. In hindsight, i think if we took Chytil at 7 and Lias at 21, we'd be over the moon for this draft. Taken at 7, Chytil would be right on track, and taken at 21, most would feel Lias was either on track, or even ahead of where he should be.

I just pretend we drafted Chytil at 7 and Lias at 21, lol

 

[Tawnos]

This is about right. In hindsight, i think if we took Chytil at 7 and Lias at 21, we'd be over the moon for this draft. Taken at 7, Chytil would be right on track, and taken at 21, most would feel Lias was either on track, or even ahead of where he should be.

I'm just picturing the reactions around here if we took Chytil, who IIRC wasn't even a lock to be a 1st rounder, at 7OA.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

I'm just picturing the reactions around here if we took Chytil, who IIRC wasn't even a lock to be a 1st rounder, at 7OA.

Pre-draft projections for Chytil:

 

[Greg02]

I'm just picturing the reactions around here if we took Chytil, who IIRC wasn't even a lock to be a 1st rounder, at 7OA.

Even at 21 the thread was an interesting mix of people wondering who and calling it a big overdraft, alongside people who were thrilled.

 

[Tawnos]

Pre-draft projections for Chytil:

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Good to see my memory works.

 

[doomscroll]

Pre-draft projections for Chytil:

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Central Scouting and the Rangers were apparently the only ones on the same page.

 

[GAGLine]

Pre-draft projections for Chytil:

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Were all those the final rankings? And were they all both North American and European? I'd be really surprised if Central Scouting had him 11th overall among all draft eligible players that year.

 

[JimmyG89]

Petterson should have gone #1 in his draft. So many people were banging that drum. Amazingly, I'd say that 4 of the top 5 should have been taken there. Patrick, who was a preseason consensus #1, shouldn't have gone that high. He's also suffering from migraines right now, so who knows how he would have performed this season. For now, I'd say this is my top 10.

Petterson
Makar
Heiskanen
Hischier
Glass
Necas
Thomas
Chytil
Patrick
Mittelstadt

Brannstrom and Suzuki are on the outside of the top 10, also there are guys like Frost, Vaakanainen and Kostin who are just getting their careers started and they have only increased their stocks since being drafted. The back end of the top 10 could look really different in about 5 months, especially if Necas, Chytil, and these guys I have just outside the top 10 get going.

Can't forget about Comtois or Texier either. They're likely to be 1st rounders at this point.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

FYI guys... Central scouting is among eu skaters only

 

[Tawnos]

FYI guys... Central scouting is among eu skaters only

What about Russians, since they're not part of the EU?

Please don't answer that like it's serious.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

What about Russians, since they're not part of the EU?

Please don't answer that like it's serious.

Well actually....

 

[GAGLine]

FYI guys... Central scouting is among eu skaters only

Thanks. That makes more sense. Still a pretty large disparity, with some having him as a late 1st and others as an early 3rd.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Thanks. That makes more sense. Still a pretty large disparity, with some having him as a late 1st and others as an early 3rd.

Which circles back to the initial point: If we had picked Chytil 7th overall on that night, this fanbase would have the pitchforks ready.

However, I remember in the weeks leading up to the draft, Chytil's stock rose due to a strong late performance. Not unlike Lias Andersson's situation. We picked 2 late risers, and it worked out early on for one of them while the other needs more time. Just goes to show you that there's no 1 way to do things right in the draft. Revisionist history is always easy and it's lazy to point out the guys who are doing well now, like Necas, Thomas etc.

In 2017, the 2 players I liked ahead of Lias Andersson were Erik Brännström and Martin Nečas. I am not going to claim I wanted Robert Thomas, or Eeli Tolvanen or Klim Kostin. At 7th overall, Lias was a top-3 option for me so when we picked him, I was happy.

When we picked Kravtsov at 9 a year later, I was again quite happy. Having said that I would have picked Kravtsov at 8 (pre-lottery) I was thrilled with the outcome. But that doesn't mean I was right. The jury is still out. Same with Lias and Chytil. As @Edge has pointed out before, the majority of the 2017 draft class is only now turning pro/coming over to NA. If Lias played in the SHL for 2 full seasons, nobody would bat an eye. And Chytil could have played in Zlin for 2 more years. They brought both over, and while for 1 it was clearly too early, the other has progressed better than anyone could have anticipated.

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

Makar jumps to number 1 already? I still think Pete goes 1 in a redraft. Followed by Makar/Heiskanen in whichever order. Then Hischier. Are people really saying Chytil is better than Hischier? Hischier hasn't lit the world on fire but he was NHL ready at 18 and has been pretty good, and i think he still has another level to reach in the coming years. No he'll never be Petersson but still.

 

[Edge]

Oh to imagine the Rangers being able to grab Keller in 2016 Pettersson in 2017.